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  • misk@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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    3 months ago

    Valve was always waiting for the moment when Microsoft would be at their weakest, possibly during some kind of transition. They were too early with Steam Machines as a response to Windows 8 but this might be the time. Xbox is faltering and ARM threatens to end Wintel ecosystem. I wouldn’t be quick to applaud those developments though.

    We have Google Linux for phones and it looks like we’ll have Valve Linux for gaming PCs. Valve is not your friend so this platform will be gradually locked down, for convenience at first. Then you’ll either use Valve Linux or you’ll be locked out of your games library - obviously not directly but alternatives will be too fiddly for mainstream. This will allow masses to be herded into Valve operated marketplace which was always the point.

    The biggest corpo mistake of last century, computing Wild West for mainstream will die bit by bit unless this process is stopped with regulations. It’s ironic that it’s happening with money made from Windows.

    • Kerb@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
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      3 months ago

      sounds just a tad paranoid.

      the android situation is not really comparable to desktop linux.

      google has a monopoly over the distribution of all apps, android has never really been independent of the playstore.

      unlike desktop linux which has an established ecosystem already

      they can lockdown their steamdeck & steamos but there is no point in running steamos unless it comes preinstalled.

      and they cant really make the installation on other distros more “fidly”, because the package manager handles installing software.

      • misk@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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        3 months ago

        sounds just a tad paranoid.

        Yeah, I would say that some years ago. Now it’s just waiting for more of the same to happen.

        the android situation is not really comparable to desktop linux.

        google has a monopoly over the distribution of all apps, android has never really been independent of the playstore.

        Doesn’t mean it has to stay that way. In Poland we had a telecom monopolist that was never anything else than a phone company. Yet, we split it into infrastructure provider and service provider. Miraculously internet got faster.

        unlike desktop linux which has an established ecosystem already

        Google took that open ecosystem and built a walled garden out of it. That’s what Valve is doing.

        they can lockdown their steamdeck & steamos but there is no point in running steamos unless it comes preinstalled.

        Steam OS is so good people install it on Steam Deck competitors. In time it will be preinstalled there too. This amount flexibility would suit Valve and is exactly what happened with Android. Remember people installing it on HTC HD2 and such back in the day?

        and they cant really make the installation on other distros more “fidly”, because the package manager handles installing software.

        Once they’re at the point described above it becomes very easy to introduce minor annoyances that push you towards their services.