• MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    My favorite one is when our utility company asks me to donate to help pay for people’s utilities like they aren’t raking in record amount of cash.

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      1 year ago

      Why don’t you help by lowering the prices and being more reasonable? How do I even now you’re actually using the money I donate for people’s bills? That’s a crazy donation request.

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        1 year ago

        Come on now, be reasonable. Lowering the prices would mean they can’t buy their 5th mansion. Just stop being selfish and give them a little more money.

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    2 years ago

    Remember kids, they also get to use the money they guilted off of you to reduce their tax liability because they get credit for donating your money!

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        2 years ago

        I used to work for a retail chain many years ago and I do not think this is true for everywhere.

        When we were asking for donations it was tracked and if our location didn’t get enough donations our store manager would get talked to by his district manager. I don’t know exactly what happened to the money once it was donated, but I don’t think they would have been so adamant about getting the donations if they didn’t make anything from it.

        This was like 20 years ago though, maybe its different now.

  • fsk@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    Those charities have huge overhead. Very little money goes to the actual cause.

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      2 years ago

      There are sites to check how much actually goes out. Check before you donate.

  • malloc@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    People that give money for those charities are giving those companies free tax write offs.

    You donate $10 or whatever. The company can then claim that $10 as a write off via donation to that charity. Campaign as a whole (either regional or national) collects $1M USD. Corporate accountants write off donation. Tax liability reduced.

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      2 years ago

      That’s not how tax write offs work. The only way to claim that money in a write-off would be for the business to also claim it as revenue. That would even out, with no tax savings. Businesses also don’t handle donations that way, they usually serve as a collection agent that just passes your donations on without being able to claim it towards their revenue or their tax write offs. The only person who can write-off their donation is the person who actually made it.

      The reason businesses do it is for marketing. They get to put out a press release saying “They helped donate $10 million to puppies without borders.”

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        2 years ago

        That’s not how tax write offs work

        Jerry: So we’re gonna make the Post Office pay for my new stereo now?

        Kramer: It’s a write-off for them.

        Jerry: How is it a write-off?

        Kramer: They just write it off.

        Jerry: Write it off what?

        Kramer: Jerry, all these big companies, they write off everything.

        Jerry: You don’t even know what a write-off is.

        Kramer: Do you?

        Jerry: No, I don’t.

        Kramer: But they do. And they’re the ones writing it off.

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        I intended on writing this comment yesterday but jerboa timed out on me. It’s a common misconception and I understand how it gets spread, but I wish there was better knowledge and education of how taxes worked in general. Would make it easier for the average person to spot the ways companies do evade taxes, too.

    • phx@lemmy.world
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      No, that’s not how it works. In order to do so, they’d have to first claim the money received as income.

      That said, there are scummy things that they do. At the least, it’s saying “we [bigcorp] donated $1,000,000 to charity” when in reality all that they did was collect it. In other situations, companies like Sobey’s doesn’t actually pass on food bank donations as cash, but rather have then as credit to buy products only from Sobey’s.

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      1 year ago

      I think that’s a myth as it isn’t income it goes into a separate fund to transfer 1:1.

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        1 year ago

        Even if it is revenue, it is still a net loss. All it does is reduce taxable income, which is still makes the donation a net loss. For anyone not aware, the current federal US corporate income tax rate is 21%. So if a company gives 100 dollars to charity, they only save 21 dollars in taxes, so they are still down roughly 79 dollars, depending on the state taxes of where they are incorporated.

        • git@lemmy.world
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          Yeah but in this scenerio company isn’t the one giving that 100 dollars, customers gives company 100 dollars to donate, company donates it, gets 21 Dollars back. Which is a 21 dollar profit for the company

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    I hate when they pull this shit at drive through fast food. “Would you like to round up to donate to our charity?”

    Who knows what the person taking my order thinks about this charity, and what they might do to someone’s food who says no.

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      2 years ago

      I can assure you that nobody working at the fast food restaurant gives a shit if you donate to charity.

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        How can you assure me of that lol.

        You think nobody at a fast food place is capable of thinking someone is an asshole for declining to donate to charity? And then acting on that?

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          I used to work fast food and retail, both which forced employees to ask customers to donate at the till. We hated doing it. It is awkward for both the customer and the worker. I would get anxiety when donation drive time of year would come round, and I’d feel relief when the customer either just said no or yes, and didn’t yell at me for asking. The cashier REALLY does not care if you donate or not. And the cashier usually does not make your food, it’s usually someone else doing the cooking, and the cooks aren’t paying attention at all to whether you donated or not.

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    Just FYI this is a sort of scam. The company donates the money on your behalf and they get the tax write-off for your donation while also appearing philanthropic for PR purposes. that’s why they do it.> e fair, I bet these companies strike deals with the charitable organizations to in turn raise visibility of those charities among the company’s customers. Furthermore there is no contractual obligation they actually donate that money or how. They could just be lying to you.

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        Furthermore, there is no contractual agreement on how or when they donate that money. So for example those companies might and likely will hold that money in trust to the non-profit. That way the company can use money as a hedge on taxes in future fiscal periods if they had an excess.

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      @zombuey I’ve heard that a lot, but it is apparently not true unless the company claims your donation as a profit and then writes it off, which negates any tax benefit. I think it’s more just a PR thing to make you feel good about that company while using your own money.

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        I think it’s more just a PR thing to make you feel good about that company while using your own money.

        Yep, even without any direct financial benefit there is certainly a reason to engage in such behavior. The store gets you to associate it with the charity campaign and they’ll make hay over the amount of donations they helped collect and their partnership with the charity. Drives for employee donations can also be used in a similar manner.

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      They also store it in a bank before donating to collect interest on it cause why not?

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    How bout the fact if they achieved their goals, they wouldn’t have a problem to have a charity for and thats a bigger concern to them. They’d rather not help people than not exist. They may as well just pretend they are the poor people their campaigning for. Or be technically homeless and donate to themselves while living in charity(company) owned residence

    • Clover🍀 @lemmy.world
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      Nah the charities are usually legit. But the companies aren’t doing it out of the goodness of their heart, it’s a massive tax write off as well as free PR.

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    It’s still fine.

    Some big international store in europe is asking to buy food from them for full price and donate it to food bank. Fuckin hilarious for making profit on charity.

  • Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    And I will never ever give these fools my actual phone number for discounts. Just use any area code w/ 867-5309 to get around this.

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      Jenny Jenny, who can I turn to? You give me something I can hold on to. I know you think I’m like the others before who saw your name and number on the wall