When serfs stood up in Tibet is one of the most harrowing books I’ve ever read, and every time the corporate-evangelical government here (
) rolls out some new way of terrorizing people or keeping then ignorant and scared for profit, I see the ghost of an Iron Bar Llama smiling wickedly as he holds his hand out for all my money. That book should be required reading to understand just how brutal, ugly, and hideously unjust things can get when a bloated and cruel theocracy controls not just peoples outer world, but their inner lives as well, their very worldview.
I can’t find the link for the full book right now, so here are two selections from the essay Friendly Feudalism: The Tibet Myth by Micheal Parenti. CW slavery, sexual violence
Selection one, long:
Drepung monastery was one of the biggest landowners in the world, with its 185 manors, 25,000 serfs, 300 great pastures, and 16,000 herdsmen. The wealth of the monasteries rested in the hands of small numbers of high-ranking lamas. Most ordinary monks lived modestly and had no direct access to great wealth. The Dalai Lama himself “lived richly in the 1000-room, 14-story Potala Palace.” [12]
Secular leaders also did well. A notable example was the commander-in-chief of the Tibetan army, a member of the Dalai Lama’s lay Cabinet, who owned 4,000 square kilometers of land and 3,500 serfs. [13] Old Tibet has been misrepresented by some Western admirers as “a nation that required no police force because its people voluntarily observed the laws of karma.” [14] In fact it had a professional army, albeit a small one, that served mainly as a gendarmerie for the landlords to keep order, protect their property, and hunt down runaway serfs.
Young Tibetan boys were regularly taken from their peasant families and brought into the monasteries to be trained as monks. Once there, they were bonded for life. Tashì-Tsering, a monk, reports that it was common for peasant children to be sexually mistreated in the monasteries. He himself was a victim of repeatedremoved, beginning at age nine. [15] The monastic estates also conscripted children for lifelong servitude as domestics, dance performers, and soldiers.
In old Tibet there were small numbers of farmers who subsisted as a kind of free peasantry, and perhaps an additional 10,000 people who composed the “middle-class” families of merchants, shopkeepers, and small traders. Thousands of others were beggars. There also were slaves, usually domestic servants, who owned nothing. Their offspring were born into slavery. [16] The majority of the rural population were serfs. Treated little better than slaves, the serfs went without schooling or medical care. They were under a lifetime bond to work the lord’s land — or the monastery’s land — without pay, to repair the lord’s houses, transport his crops, and collect his firewood. They were also expected to provide carrying animals and transportation on demand. [17] Their masters told them what crops to grow and what animals to raise. They could not get married without the consent of their lord or lama. And they might easily be separated from their families should their owners lease them out to work in a distant location. [18]
As in a free labor system and unlike slavery, the overlords had no responsibility for the serf’s maintenance and no direct interest in his or her survival as an expensive piece of property. The serfs had to support themselves. Yet as in a slave system, they were bound to their masters, guaranteeing a fixed and permanent workforce that could neither organize nor strike nor freely depart as might laborers in a market context. The overlords had the best of both worlds.
One 22-year old woman, herself a runaway serf, reports: “Pretty serf girls were usually taken by the owner as house servants and used as he wished”; they “were just slaves without rights.” [19] Serfs needed permission to go anywhere. Landowners had legal authority to capture those who tried to flee. One 24-year old runaway welcomed the Chinese intervention as a “liberation.” He testified that under serfdom he was subjected to incessant toil, hunger, and cold. After his third failed escape, he was merciless beaten by the landlord’s men until blood poured from his nose and mouth. They then poured alcohol and caustic soda on his wounds to increase the pain, he claimed. [20]
The serfs were taxed upon getting married, taxed for the birth of each child and for every death in the family. They were taxed for planting a tree in their yard and for keeping animals. They were taxed for religious festivals and for public dancing and drumming, for being sent to prison and upon being released. Those who could not find work were taxed for being unemployed, and if they traveled to another village in search of work, they paid a passage tax. When people could not pay, the monasteries lent them money at 20 to 50 percent interest. Some debts were handed down from father to son to grandson. Debtors who could not meet their obligations risked being cast into slavery. [21]
The theocracy’s religious teachings buttressed its class order. The poor and afflicted were taught that they had brought their troubles upon themselves because of their wicked ways in previous lives. Hence they had to accept the misery of their present existence as a karmic atonement and in anticipation that their lot would improve in their next lifetime. The rich and powerful treated their good fortune as a reward for, and tangible evidence of, virtue in past and present lives.
Selection two, shorter: (CW sexual violence and mutilation)
The Tibetan serfs were something more than superstitious victims, blind to their own oppression. As we have seen, some ran away; others openly resisted, sometimes suffering dire consequences. In feudal Tibet, torture and mutilation — including eye gouging, the pulling out of tongues, hamstringing, and amputation — were favored punishments inflicted upon thieves, and runaway or resistant serfs. [22]
Journeying through Tibet in the 1960s, Stuart and Roma Gelder interviewed a former serf, Tsereh Wang Tuei, who had stolen two sheep belonging to a monastery. For this he had both his eyes gouged out and his hand mutilated beyond use. He explains that he no longer is a Buddhist: “When a holy lama told them to blind me I thought there was no good in religion.” [23] Since it was against Buddhist teachings to take human life, some offenders were severely lashed and then “left to God” in the freezing night to die. “The parallels between Tibet and medieval Europe are striking,” concludes Tom Grunfeld in his book on Tibet. [24]
In 1959, Anna Louise Strong visited an exhibition of torture equipment that had been used by the Tibetan overlords. There were handcuffs of all sizes, including small ones for children, and instruments for cutting off noses and ears, gouging out eyes, breaking off hands, and hamstringing legs. There were hot brands, whips, and special implements for disemboweling. The exhibition presented photographs and testimonies of victims who had been blinded or crippled or suffered amputations for thievery. There was the shepherd whose master owed him a reimbursement in yuan and wheat but refused to pay. So he took one of the master’s cows; for this he had his hands severed. Another herdsman, who opposed having his wife taken from him by his lord, had his hands broken off. There were pictures of Communist activists with noses and upper lips cut off, and a woman who wasremovedd and then had her nose sliced away. [25]
Earlier visitors to Tibet commented on the theocratic despotism. In 1895, an Englishman, Dr. A. L. Waddell, wrote that the populace was under the “intolerable tyranny of monks” and the devil superstitions they had fashioned to terrorize the people. In 1904 Perceval Landon described the Dalai Lama’s rule as “an engine of oppression.” At about that time, another English traveler, Captain W. F. T. O’Connor, observed that “the great landowners and the priests… exercise each in their own dominion a despotic power from which there is no appeal,” while the people are “oppressed by the most monstrous growth of monasticism and priest-craft.” Tibetan rulers “invented degrading legends and stimulated a spirit of superstition” among the common people. In 1937, another visitor, Spencer Chapman, wrote, “The Lamaist monk does not spend his time in ministering to the people or educating them. […] The beggar beside the road is nothing to the monk. Knowledge is the jealously guarded prerogative of the monasteries and is used to increase their influence and wealth.” [26] As much as we might wish otherwise, feudal theocratic Tibet was a far cry from the romanticized Shangri-La so enthusiastically nurtured by Buddhism’s western proselytes.
This is what the “Free Tibet wholesome 100 CIA-backed Dalai Llama fuck the CCP” crowd is supporting. Old Tibet wasn’t the Holy Land of popular boomer imagination, it was the fucking Holy Nation from Kenshi.
∞🏳️⚧️Edie [it/its, she/her, fae/faer, love/loves, null/void, des/pair, none/use name]@lemmy.ml8·1 hour agohttps://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/strong-anna-louise/1959/tibet/index.htm
And there are some PDFs annas-archive, this one looks like it might be the best
Hell yeah thank you
Are they still making music?
Not in nearly a decade now.
A blessing for the rest of us.
fake news… btw, radiohead isn’t nearly as big as they were back in the free tibet days, boomer….
https://pitchfork.com/news/radiohead-thom-yorke-releases-statement-on-israel-and-gaza/The statement is basically ‘we oppose Netanyahu, but we are fine with the Lebensraum genocide in general’.
I recognize that this probably qualifies as “picking holes” as he said, but his questioning of Hamas seems to be more of a rhetorical device than a sincere request for information. It’s not like things had been good in Palestine before the October 7 attack, so questioning why they did it sort of implies that it was out of the blue and not in response to decades of failed attempts to peacefully end settlement expansion and violence against Palestinians. And while acknowledging the horrors that Israel is raining down on them, is it not obvious why Hamas would still have hostages? The hostages are their only bargaining chip, and without the hostages, Palestine would’ve already been wiped off the map.
I’ve been a Radiohead fan for a long time, and I’ll continue to be, but this was an unexpectedly neoliberal take to criticize both sides and yearn for going back to how things used to be, completely ignoring that how things used to be is how we got here. That’s how time works.
I think of this quote from JFK pretty often, and it just refuses to stop being relevant, and apparently more people need to hear it. “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.” That’s the reason for the attack. The reason for having hostages is “to cling onto hope for survival against an otherwise guaranteed complete genocide.” They’re holding on and hoping that the world that is watching actually does something to help them, and we just aren’t.
it’s not “both sides”.
hamas is evil as fuck, israeli’s regime is evil as fuck, the people of israel and the people of palestine are not all evil as fuck and don’t deserve to be murdered.
it’s not “neoliberal”, every time someone criticizes israel’s genocide of palestine they try to call them a hamas supporter and terrorist supporter.
do you think that getting on a crowded bus with a bomb on your chest and blowing it up when the bus is up to speed for max civilian damage is a good thing?
hamas has a history of ruthless terrorism… but hamas is not the starving 8 year old girl i saw get bombed while collecting water on video….
bibi wants nothing more than for you to conflate hamas with palestine.
he was recorded saying the best way to support israel is to donate money to hamas.
and you’re falling for his trap right now.This is both-sidesing a genocide. Hamas is a national liberation org fighting against literal genocide and settler colonialism. 82% of Israelis, in recent polling, want ethnic cleansing in Gaza.
It’s been difficult for me to find evidence of Hamas atrocities barring Oct 7th. Do you have any resources?
They both sides it.
I think Netanyahu and his crew of extremists are totally out of control and need to be stopped, and that the international community should put all the pressure it can on them to cease. Their excuse of self-defence has long since worn thin and has been replaced by a transparent desire to take control of Gaza and the West Bank permanently.
I believe this ultra-nationalist administration has hidden itself behind a terrified & grieving people and used them to deflect any criticism, using that fear and grief to further their ultra-nationalist agenda with terrible consequences, as we see now with the horrific blockade of aid to Gaza.
While our lives tick along as normal these endless thousands of innocent human souls are still being expelled from the earth… for what?
At the same time the unquestioning Free Palestine refrain that surrounds us all does not answer the simple question of why the hostages have still not all been returned? For what possible reason?
Why did Hamas choose the truly horrific acts of October 7th? The answer seems obvious, and I believe Hamas chooses too to hide behind the suffering of its people, in an equally cynical fashion for their own purposes.
I also think there is a further and extremely important point to make.
Social media witch-hunts (nothing new) on either side pressurizing artists and whoever they feel like that week to make statements etc do very little except heighten tension, fear and over-simplification of what are complex problems that merit proper face to face debate by people who genuinely wish the killing to stop and an understanding to be found.
This kind of deliberate polarization does not serve our fellow human beings and perpetuates a constant ‘us and them’ mentality. It destroys hope and maintains a sense of isolation, the very things that extremists use to maintain their position. We facilitate their hiding in plain sight if we assume that the extremists and the people they claim to represent are one and the same, indivisible.
If our world is ever able to move on from these dark times and find peace it will only be when we rediscover what we share in common, and the extremists are sent back to sit in the darkness from whence they came.
I sympathize completely with the desire to ‘do something’ when we are witnessing such horrific suffering on our devices every day. It completely makes sense. But I now think it is a dangerous illusion to believe reposting, or one or two line messages are meaningful, especially if it is to condemn your fellow human beings. There are unintended consequences.
It is shouting from the darkness. It is not looking people in the eye when you speak. It is making dangerous assumptions. It is not debate and it is not critical thinking.
Importantly, it is open to online manipulation of all kinds, both mechanistic and political.
why not quote just the parts you’re referring to?
at any rate, no, he four-sides’ed it.
there is hamas, the palestinian people, the israeli people, and the idf/israeli regime….
i know the israeli story of what happened on oct 7 is mostly lies… but targeting civilians is terrorism when israel does it, and when hamas does it… neither the civilian population of palestine or of israel should be indiscriminately murdered….
not that i want soldiers to murder each other either, but it’s just flat evil to murder civilians.
hamas has been killing palestinians too, they’re kinda extremists like that….
but, there’s more than two sides to this coin….First, I’ll say you’re right. There’s more than two sides. Its a mistake to only highlight the leaders and the fighters. The average inhabitants are primary in my world view.
I shared the long passage because I thought his slide from condemning netanyahu and the right wing of likud to criticizing slogans was important. So I posted a long passage to show the both sides he was criticizing. The second size isn’t Hamas, it’s social media with a “just asking questions” about Hamas.
Its funny to me that he gets that Likud* is a monster that needs to be banished. And I agree, Hamas emerged as a monster. But he fails to ever say who has almost all the cards. And who has all the power and where that is coming from.
Likud knows they can and will get away with ethnic cleansing. They know they are doing monsterous things. And that Israelis will thank them later. There will be no Palestinians left to blame or thank or codemn Hamas. If Hamas ever returns all the kidnapped, I don’t think Likud will stop. Do you?
Do you think what Hamas did on Oct 7th is anything near the scale of what Israel has done since? Israel denies targeting civilians or reporters and yet they seem to just die somehow. Isn’t this a horror that exceeds the terrorism of Hamas. We don’t have a word for it, but it’s worse. And the horror of Israeli control of Palestine, an act whose monstrosity can be hidden because of the power imbalance and the rest of the world pretending like nothing is happening … Again we have no words. We have no power. We pretend to when we scream “Free Palestine”. But we know all we have is sorrow.
* I use Likud to represent their whole coalition. If Likud fails to win the next election, but another right wing government emerges and continues the policy, my analysis still stands.
Why do bands need to voice a strong opinion on international politics?
That’s part of how punk and rap was born, yes
Depends on the band. Have they shared strong opinions before? Than yes, their fans can expect them to share their opinions on international politics. If not, nobody would expect them to have an opinion on the first place and there would be no discussion to be had.
Yes.
But does Tibet have Hamas?
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Not cool bro. Why are you dunking on someone straight out the gates, with little to no context on the topic discussed? This isn’t twitter.
Radiohead where quite outspoken on the “Free - Tibet” but have used Hamas being labeled as Terrorist group and subscribed to the idea “Israel having the right to defend themselves”.
So making a joke about Radiohead not caring for the genocide in Palestaine because of “Hamas” is quite adecuate.
Well, my comment was a classic “yo momma” joke. You asking for “what about hamas?” Is a very common fascist deflection. So if you talk like a fascist, don’t be mad to be treated as such.
Next, armed struggle against an oppressive colonizing regime is protected under international law. And hamas is THE GOVERNMENT there that means even a government employed janitor as treated as a “terrorist”. In fact IOF uses this exact same rhetoric to kill civilian in gaza.
As a popular mainstream icon, radiohead has power that we everyday individuals don’t. And when you talk like “oh hamas and IDF same same” that makes you either complicit at best or genocide apologist at worst.