It’s not like any candidate was actually good but they did pick the worst one.

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    It’s too late.

    Fascism isn’t something on the horizon. Look at what is happening in Idaho. Within a year or two half of the US states will have criminalized abortion, and all you hear from federal legislators is how important it is that we shovel more money we don’t have into other countries’ wars.

    It’s over.

    The only power you or I have left is in our immediate local communities, where you can still accomplish the general good.

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            Sad to see you got some downvotes, your takes here are very technically correct and aware of the big picture and actual facts of the mechanisms.

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                My surviving jewish family were freed from a nazi death camp by the people you call fascists. Equating the two is holocaust trivialization and antisemitic. I literally link you to a well known mainstream Jewish historian and activist about this issue. Do you think David Katz is a “tankie”?

                You call me scum equivalent to a nazi in response. Have words lost all meaning to you?

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                    I completely agree with your gist but

                    whose academic background has fuckall to do with history since he’s a fucking philologist.

                    Dude, don’t do philology dirty like that. They’re reading dusty old tomes all day long and you need a lot of historical knowledge to make proper sense of them. We couldn’t read hieroglyphics without their work, and their extrapolations have been proven by Hittite (which was discovered after the reconstruction of proto-Indo-European and looks exactly as expected). The two disciplines feed into each other. Dr. Daniel Jackson is a philologist and at least as cool as Indiana Jones and do I need to mention J.R.R. Tolkien.

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                    Being genocidal and being exceptionally genocidal both earn you a one way ticket to “shoot on sight” land in my book, debating which one is worse is thoroughly pointless from a moral standpoint and a red herring from a political science standpoint as being a fascist does not require a kill count (though it usually predicts a pretty fucking high one.)

                    Okay, so people who support liberal “democracies” like the US currently backing genocide should be shot on sight then? Or just the governments responsible?

                    The problem with “those genocidal communists” is that liberal democracies are significantly more genocidal. You want to go with the least bad system.

                    Take the notion that man-made famine counts as genocide. 8 million people starve under the capitalist world order every year.

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                    Oh my god there was antisemitism in the USSR, even among some leadership! Several doctors got killed!

                    You’re right, a few incidences of antisemitism are the same as the holocaust, or the pogroms that the pre-soviet monarchy backed by western liberal democracies engaged in. Or the antisemitism in the post soviet union liberal democracies. /s

                    You are a deeply unserious person. And a holocaust trivializer if it “owns the tankies” apparently. Great priorities.

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          Nazi Germany actually had a more liberal view of abortion than the laws that a lot of Republican states are now passing (for reasons that you can probably imagine, but still)

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            Nazi Germany isn’t the only form of fascism, and had other individual freedoms even more restricted. Nazi Germany was a far-right, reactionary state that violently suppressed Workers and stripped their freedoms, just like American conservatives are attempting to do and are working towards.

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            How liberal was their view of social equality in regards to varying races?

            You DO see how disingenuous your example is, right?

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            The Nazi stance on abortion wasn’t “liberal”, that’s ludicrous. It ranged from being forbidden for parents of German blood to encouraged or even forced in other cases, it was all about their ideas of racial hygiene. Not even the GOP is that racist, or can you imagine them mandating abortions for mixed-race couples?

            The only case where this might be true is even the ban on abortion for German couples did not mean a ban on abortions in medical cases. German (not just Nazi) law generally considers it, as is proper, self-defence. Honestly I don’t think a legal system which doesn’t consider it such can consider itself a legal system at all, Radbruch and everything.