Quick, we’re losing the core left voters - deploy the gay story
How I hope that is truly the case. That is, that the right is losing ground to the left (ie progressive) sector of the world. It needs to happen, and by all “rights” it should have happened long before this. Luckily the pendulum always swings back to the left at some point - and i really believe that time is coming.
This is just bullshit fluff to cover up the fact that they have absolutely no intention of making ordinary people’s lives better.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad he’s not a homophobe. But this is just the Dems self-defeating demographic strategy. Fuck the working class but hey, marginalised people, vote for us!
And he can’t even do it properly because he’s decided transphobia and racism are A-OK because otherwise the media he is too afraid to stand up too will attack his spineless self.
Well I’m a staunch democrat myself and I don’t believe I’ve ever wanted to “fuck the working class” over - hell I am the working class. And I want all marginalized people to be included in the process of democracy.
I live in Utah where transphobia is enshrined into law - they just passed a law disallowing trans people from using public restrooms. I’m glad I’m not the guy who has to sit at the bathroom door examining everyone’s penis to make sure it matches what it should be on their birth certificate.
Anyway I think all people have to make a concerted effort to stand up and fight of phobia and get involved in voting for more forward-thinking and less fearful people.
Well I’m a staunch democrat myself and I don’t believe I’ve ever wanted to “fuck the working class”
This thread is about Labour in the UK. Far too many similarities, mind.
Loyalty to a political party is a bit weird but whatever, you need to pay attention to what they do not what you wish they’d do.
“For every blue-collar Democrat we lose in western Pennsylvania, we will pick up two moderate Republicans in the suburbs in Philadelphia, and you can repeat that in Ohio and Illinois and Wisconsin. — Chuck Schumer, 2016
That’s how the Dems lost in 2016 and it’s how they may lose again in 2024. And it’s how Starmer’s Labour party will fail to undo the damage the Tories did, just like Blair’s Labour party failed (because it had no intention of trying).
It is because I’ve paid attention for 70 years to what democrats do vs. republicans that I am and always will be utterly loyal in every way to the Democratic party. They will not lose this time around, that’s one thing I can promise - a blue wave is about to sweep over this country from one corner to the other. And even if that doesn’t happen, I believe being a democrat that I never lose at all.
But, that’s just me and how I see things. I get where you are coming from in regard to the problems with labour and class inequities in the UK.
The US has even worse problems with labour and class inequities, and if you’ve been paying attention for the last 70 years you would have noticed how much everything has changed since Thatcher/Reagan.
You can hold your nose to vote, you know? Sometimes it is necessary to vote for the least worst option but it is never necessary to pretend that it is actually perfect.
Sounds good to me.
Kier starmer errrr
used to be called ‘gay starmer’likes the word ‘gay’has a cool Grindr profilehas gay friends yes that’s it that’s the one bingo got it yes gottem
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Keir Starmer was beaten up in a nightclub in Cornwall as a teenager after trying to defend one of his friends who was attacked for being gay, a new book reveals.
In an incident that the book’s author, Tom Baldwin, suggests demonstrates Starmer’s values, the Labour leader describes how he was disgusted that his friend had been kicked out of the family home in the 1980s for being gay by his father who told him “you’re no son of mine”.
In the summer after he sat his A-levels in 1980, Starmer and two friends from school, Mark and Graham, worked at a holiday centre for a disability charity in Cornwall, where they went on a night out.
Baldwin recounts how “in cold fury” Starmer “tossed his phone across the table” to show him two photos of his niece’s face, the first looking radiant and happy on her wedding day, the other almost unrecognisably swollen and purple after the attack.
“Starmer’s anger over what happened to his niece, and – despite his best efforts with the police – the failure to prosecute those responsible, is an emotion you rarely see from him in public,” Baldwin writes.
“For my part, I think the argument made casually by a lot of people these days that he stands for nothing is well wide of the mark.”
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By who?
We can only hope this is a way of avoiding the anti-Semitism claims used (in part) to sink Labour when Corbyn was in charge.
He could explain the difference between Israel and Judaism a billion times, but if he denounces Israel, he’ll be called an anti-Semite by all and sundry. It’ll tarnish his reputation and potentially ruin his election hopes.
Of course, I have no way of knowing his true feelings. Maybe he genuinely is in favour of what they’re doing over there.
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Thats an awful lot of words to avoid the question. If you want Labour to beaten at the next election who do you want to win? Given that the only other party with any chance of forming a majority is the tories I would have to assume you want them to win.
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So who do you want to beat Labour then? You’re still dancing round it.
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So given that there is no significant party to the left of Labour (LDs arent, the greens are viable in about 3 seats and the nationalists only contest around a 5th of the total seats) you don’t want Labour to be beaten, you’re just frustrated with Labour’s position. I get that, it pisses me off how timid they are being as well. But trying to stir up animosity to the only party that can replace the current incompetent and at times bordering fascist government we currently have is not the way to go.
