• m532@lemmygrad.ml
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    3 days ago

    There’s no socialism in social democrats, only capitalists doing concessions so the people don’t demand socialism

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      I’m going to university for 27€ per semester while getting free healthcare and subsidised housing and lunch. If I were to become homeless I could go to a shelter for sleeping and food. Additionally you get a certain percentage of your salary (starting at ~80%, becomes less as the months pass, but it’s plenty of time to find a new job) after getting fired. Schools are free and there are basically no private schools because there’s simply no need, public education is good. After childbirth you also get money until you can work again, for up to 3 years. There are regulations against monopolies and cartels. Etc etc.

      imo this is the ideal system

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        "My men enslave people in africa to get rubber and murder them if they dont gather enough rubber and then we ship it here and then we have lots of rubber in belgium and the suffering happens somewhere else where I’ll never be

        imo this is the ideal system"

        - king of belgium, probably

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          2 days ago

          What about not enslaving people?

          And of course people in weaker economies get paid less, they also need less since everything is cheaper.

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            If you don’t enslave people, you’ll need communism for high living standards

            Edit: What if your slaves want more pay? Will you give them more pay so they get the same as in your country, or will you threaten to kill them if they stop working for you?

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              If they were slaves they wouldn’t have to get any pay.

              Paying them the same as in my country would be worth much more there. Anyway, might as well produce locally and have less shipping costs when they’d demand the same anyway.

              And another factor for outsourcing work is simply that noons wants to do that work here. How does communism solve that? By forcing people to do it anyway?

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        The whole problem is that your system is built on the backs of super-exploiting the Global South. You’ve exported the bulk of the hard labor that allows you to live comfortable lives, and maintain it through the domination of private financial Capital.