• Lit@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    7 days ago

    Bingo, never forget Putin is ex-KGB/FSB, the master of propaganda. Many people seem to fall easily for russia and US propaganda. This war has nothing to do with massive CSTO, NATO, NAZI , LGBTQ, biolabs and etc. Those are propaganda for sheeps. To make it seem complicated. It is the same strategy, the WMDs excuses US used to invade Iraq. We hate US for doing that, It is the same reason we hate russia for doing the same, unless one is a hypocrite.

    Russia have hardly any troops along border with NATO members. Russia is already surrounded with nuclear powers. No nuclear power will nuke a neighbour as the radiation will spread to their own country. Russia have nukes right next to NATO members in kaliningard. Russia made Belarus a nuclear sponge.

    The truth is more likely simple and practical, more about getting warm water ports, more lands/colonies and imperialism but it hard to sell pure facist ideas like that to the people and world. Putin talked about soviet empire during interview with carlson. Russia got the warm water port from Crimea but most of the water supply to crimea comes from Ukraine. This invasion is to secure that water supply and probably even to link up with Transnistria. Any other reason given is minor and mostly just pure propaganda to confuse and complicate, to hide the truth, to build support from different groups, to demonize the enemy and sell the need for invasion to sheeps. Just like how the US sold the idea about WMDs in iraq.

    Also note NATO does not expand it is based on membership, one way to identify russia talking point propaganda is someone using the word “expansion” or “pushing expansion” when talking about NATO. In geopolitics expansion usually means invasion. In order to justify their own invasion they have to use words like expansion for NATO.

    Potential NATO member, apply for membership and are accepted by vote. Before the war there was only minority public support inside ukraine for ukraine joining NATO, it changed after the war. Even after Ukraine government said they won’t apply to NATO but russia didn’t leave Ukraine lands ie. It was about the lands not NATO.

    Putin : “I am absolutely convinced that Ukraine will not shy away from the processes of expanding interaction with NATO and the Western allies as a whole. Ukraine has its own relations with NATO; there is the Ukraine-NATO Council. At the end of the day the decision is to be taken by NATO and Ukraine. It is a matter for those two partners.” http://www.en.kremlin.ru/events/president/transcripts/21598