• AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml
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    15 hours ago

    You’re kinda fucking stupid as shit if you don’t understand propaganda in the west is orders of magnitude worse than in China based solely on the dollar amount spent on it

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      13 hours ago

      propaganda while related to censorship, is not the same thing as censorship. You are putting 2 different terms as equivalent. And it’s no surprise the west’s budget on that would be larger in dollars, the pay by exchange rate is higher in the west for those positions, and china is one country, the west is dozens of countries.

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        12 hours ago

        Thank you for explaining to everyone that propaganda and censorship are related but not identical terms. I’m sure the time spent reading it was just as valuable as the time spent writing it. And now it’s gone.

        And while your point is kind of dumb in that it assumes every society is exactly the same and that differences in how they spend money is explainable by scale of the economy, it’s extra dumb because by that mechanism you’re conceding the main point of contention that the west controls the thought and discourse in its empire more than China does.

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          11 hours ago

          Literally, no, I’m not conceding that point. Their dollar does not give the same value. There is substantially less control of media and internet in the west as compared to china.

          I wouldn’t’ve had to explain it if you knew the difference in the first place

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            10 hours ago

            There is substantially less control of media and internet in the west as compared to china.

            “it doesn’t count as being controlled by the government because the guy who owns the government controls it directly”

            There is no argument that you can make that isn’t stupid because you are wrong.

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              8 hours ago

              You’re a fuckin moron man. You can easily find any of the so called “censored items” with mainstream search engines like google or even just on Facebook or reddit. What are these so called banned topics that you say exist anyways?

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                8 hours ago

                I honestly can’t tell if you’re just too prideful to admit you’re wrong. I don’t believe any present minded, awake person could be naive to the concept of a discovery algorithm. So you setting the bar at ‘you can literally find it if you know what you’re looking for and try’ for government control of thought and discourse seems genuinely in bad faith.

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                  6 hours ago

                  Give an example. Russian news outlets and far left ideology are both too unpopular to be common even without suppression. They’re not examples of censorship.