There is absolutely anti-Newsom astroturfing going on right now.
I don’t trust that mail any more than you do. But you know what I also don’t like? Being compared to it.
I have a feeling that if we’d been complaining about this a few months back there’d have been a decent chance you’d have nodded your head and said “Yeah, Gavin has some serious problems.” But now that he’s being talked up as a presidential candidate, we get this. And it’s just as utterly ridiculous as the last n times I’ve heard it.
He’s getting criticized a lot now because there’s a push to have him go for the presidency. That’s a big deal! It gets attention! And it’s a serious goddamn concern for people who don’t want a fucking transphobe president! That’s not astroturfing, for God’s sake!
If there was ever a time to push for a less shit candidate, it’s NOW, way before the election. If you’re going to shit on us for demanding better now of all times, then it doesn’t sound to me like you want us to have better at all.
now that he’s being talked up as a presidential candidate
I haven’t heard anyone talking him up as a candidate. I mean, people have talked about it periodically and I’m sure they still are, but the reason he’s in the news right now is because he’s trying to fuck up Trump’s planning. The election isn’t for years and years (maybe longer than that, the way things are going) right now.
Literally the second sentence of the article you posted is about how Newsom wants to run for president.
He’s doing all this attention grabbing shit because he wants to run for president. It isn’t possible to have a coherent conversation about politics without accepting that politicians plan presidential campaigns more than a few months in advance.
No, he made it into the news because he’s doing all this attention grabbing shit. And then some geniuses sprung the gotcha of “Aha! He is a high-profile Democrat, therefore nothing he does counts, because he’s just doing it because he wants to be president!” And then they sat back with a satisfied smile.
The article isn’t talking him up as a candidate. I’m not talking him up as a candidate. He’s not in the news because he’s a candidate for the election that’s going to happen in three and a half years. Are you now shifting your stance from “now that he’s being talked up as a candidate” to something different? Or still claiming he’s being talked up as a candidate for the election and that’s why we have to “respond” with this sort of disclaimer? I mean, it’s fine, I actually was as you noted the person who posted this article which is slapping a disclaimer on what he is doing. But IDK where you got the idea that all of a sudden now he’s being talked up as a candidate.
IDK where you got the idea that all of a sudden now he’s being talked up as a candidate.
it’s not all of a sudden. it’s been obvious for years that the presidency is the goal he’s working towards. don’t confuse “I only started paying attention recently” with “this only started recently”.
Many journalists and political analysts have mentioned Newsom as a presidential hopeful. According to a June 2023 poll by NewsNation, 22% of California voters wanted Newsom to enter the 2024 presidential election. In May 2023, Schwarzenegger said it was a “no-brainer” that Newsom would someday run for president. An April 2023 article published in The Hill by journalist Sharon Udasin also discussed the inevitability of a Newsom presidential run. In September 2022, Newsom said that he would not run for president in 2024, citing his “vulnerable” 2021 recall. After his 2022 reelection, he informed White House staff that he would not challenge President Biden in the Democratic primaries; he endorsed Biden’s reelection campaign on April 25, 2023.
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In anticipation of a potential 2028 presidential campaign, Newsom has adjusted his political approach to appeal to a broader electorate. A key shift in his strategy has been his engagement with conservative voices, including hosting MAGA figures like Charlie Kirk and Steve Bannon on his podcast, This is Gavin Newsom. While this tactic has received a fair amount of criticism from his own supporters, Newsom has also been praised by figures on the left for his hawkish response to the Trump administration’s actions regarding gerrymandering, with his widely publicized Election Rigging Response Act in August 2025 seen by many commentators as a soft launch of a presidential run.
he’s savvy enough to play the long game. running in 2020 would have been seen as premature, because he only started as governor in Jan 2019. didn’t want to rock the boat in 2024 by challenging Biden or Harris. he’s term-limited as CA governor which means he can’t run for re-election in 2026. he is absolutely 1000% going to run in 2028.
and yeah he hasn’t formally announced yet, but no one has at this point in the cycle. like, JD Vance hasn’t either even though as VP of a theoretically-term-limited president he’s obviously going to be in the running too.
I don’t trust that mail any more than you do. But you know what I also don’t like? Being compared to it.
I have a feeling that if we’d been complaining about this a few months back there’d have been a decent chance you’d have nodded your head and said “Yeah, Gavin has some serious problems.” But now that he’s being talked up as a presidential candidate, we get this. And it’s just as utterly ridiculous as the last n times I’ve heard it.
He’s getting criticized a lot now because there’s a push to have him go for the presidency. That’s a big deal! It gets attention! And it’s a serious goddamn concern for people who don’t want a fucking transphobe president! That’s not astroturfing, for God’s sake!
If there was ever a time to push for a less shit candidate, it’s NOW, way before the election. If you’re going to shit on us for demanding better now of all times, then it doesn’t sound to me like you want us to have better at all.
I haven’t heard anyone talking him up as a candidate. I mean, people have talked about it periodically and I’m sure they still are, but the reason he’s in the news right now is because he’s trying to fuck up Trump’s planning. The election isn’t for years and years (maybe longer than that, the way things are going) right now.
Literally the second sentence of the article you posted is about how Newsom wants to run for president.
He’s doing all this attention grabbing shit because he wants to run for president. It isn’t possible to have a coherent conversation about politics without accepting that politicians plan presidential campaigns more than a few months in advance.
No, he made it into the news because he’s doing all this attention grabbing shit. And then some geniuses sprung the gotcha of “Aha! He is a high-profile Democrat, therefore nothing he does counts, because he’s just doing it because he wants to be president!” And then they sat back with a satisfied smile.
The article isn’t talking him up as a candidate. I’m not talking him up as a candidate. He’s not in the news because he’s a candidate for the election that’s going to happen in three and a half years. Are you now shifting your stance from “now that he’s being talked up as a candidate” to something different? Or still claiming he’s being talked up as a candidate for the election and that’s why we have to “respond” with this sort of disclaimer? I mean, it’s fine, I actually was as you noted the person who posted this article which is slapping a disclaimer on what he is doing. But IDK where you got the idea that all of a sudden now he’s being talked up as a candidate.
it’s not all of a sudden. it’s been obvious for years that the presidency is the goal he’s working towards. don’t confuse “I only started paying attention recently” with “this only started recently”.
from his wikipedia:
he’s savvy enough to play the long game. running in 2020 would have been seen as premature, because he only started as governor in Jan 2019. didn’t want to rock the boat in 2024 by challenging Biden or Harris. he’s term-limited as CA governor which means he can’t run for re-election in 2026. he is absolutely 1000% going to run in 2028.
and yeah he hasn’t formally announced yet, but no one has at this point in the cycle. like, JD Vance hasn’t either even though as VP of a theoretically-term-limited president he’s obviously going to be in the running too.
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