Sorry if this is not the place for that kind of discussion. I would like to be civil, please. Some people on Reddit were talking about how only dictators would want to disarm people.
Can I have some explanation on your opinion and why? I believe weapons should be banned and that crime should not exist in the first place. My opinion may change, but I believe there should somehow be strict rules regarding crime to reduce the amount of it and just have a place where it will not be worried about.
The main issue is that for the potential harm of having some gun violence, the downsides are significant. Guns by the selves being banned doesn’t stop murder or anything. There are many ways to murder someone. You can do it with a rock. Guns in many ways make society more peaceful because it equalizes people. Women in particular can be every bit as dangerous as men if they need too.
The real issue with banning them, besides the people who will die because they cannot defend themselves, is that governments are extremely evil and always have been. Just in the past century governments have deliberately murdered in excess of 100 million people. Guns won’t necessarily stop authoritarian regimes from taking power, but they do make it very difficult to oppress people, as every cop who has to arrest people have to worry about how they are perceived by the community. With an armed population, the state at least has to keep a venere of morality and legitmency to the people. America is a country that has more cops and prisons thay almost any nation in the world. They try to work around this by eroding away residence a little at a time, but this causes the economy to fail since our society creates so many losers and corruption runs wild.
Anyways I’m generally progun, maybe they shouldn’t be allowed in some areas like in populated areas or public spaces, outside of security for peaceful protests, but banning them entirely seems like a bad idea to me. Most of the world’s countries have already fallen to extreme orwellian authoritarianism and they are working on the U.S right now. Once the rich have robot police, 100 people will be able to control the entire human species with massive violence and terrorism. We are going to need guns at that point anyways, and hopefully before then if people wise up and stop hating each other and realize the state and the corporations are the ones doing everything possible to enslave and brainwash us, and destroy our freedom.
Or they need to be more heavily armed. Which they are.
And yet only we have armed drones in schools to prevent school shootings.
The military and police forces of the world are tiny compared to the armed populations, not to mention the fact that they rely on our labor to function. The people could easily overthrow the U.S military and all the police who protect the corpos and stuff.
That’s just Florida being stupid. I don’t really have a good answer to school shootings other then society is terrible and everyone suffers, and they almost certainly ignore school shooters because it’s convenient to them politically. It’s hard to believe with the mass surveillance they have that they cannot find most of them ahead of time. Pretty much all school shooters turn out to be borderline retards who leave months of evidence leading up to the attack. I’m not saying it’s good and you can ban guns in school, that’s completely acceptable, maybe having metal detectors with armed security is a good mitigation, but the way things are going right now, school shootings will be the least of your worries Inca few years from now.
It amazes me that people advocate for disarming the working class, as America slides into fascism and a total state with total surveillance. There is no easy way out. They are coming for all of us. You can’t bury your head and the sand and hope they won’t come for you as well. At this point the only thing that can save America is a revolution, and for that we need to be armed, or it’s going to be much more painful. In one years hundreds of thousands or millions die in a war. Don’t forget that. Indo think some common sense restrictions are acceptable like I mentioned in public spaces outside of protest and things like this, unless the crime rate is high or something.
Why haven’t we? It’s not for lack of gun
Perhaps, but the Florida Window is wide open
The keyboard is mightier than the gun
There hasn’t been a reason to overthrow the U.S until 2001. That’s when they went authoritarian and antihuman, passing the patriot act, hyperinflating the economy to destroy the middle class, repealing antiprogaganda laws. It started earlier but hasn’t been as bad. I’m not that old though so I really don’t know how it was before the 90s. I remember the U.S was a much nicer place in the 90s and early 2000s. People also cared more about things, besides their next meal.
For point 3, not anymore, the internet has been taken over by algorithms. Nobody will ever see anything they don’t want people to see and they have armies of propaganda bots manipulating the minds of the masses. It is effective but it’s not a replacement for being armed. Most people are decent. They do care about privacy and human rights and other things even if the internet bots try to convince you that everyone is a fascist or a communist. They just want people to accept authoritarianism.