Thanks! I didn’t thought looking them up as “Famine in Russia”. We started this conversation from Holodomor. When Amnesigenic was speaking about “that area”, so I wrongly assumed we talking about Ukraine territory only. Not to say there was no famine in other places, just did have associations with broader famine of 31-33.
Going back to “periodic famine” argument, I don’t see how 3 times in 600 years is periodic and that’s including famine in 1315-17 which affected entire Europe all the way to England. I’m sure there were couple others which went under the radar.
But I think it’s delusional to claim Holodomor was not man-made taking into account that major USSR’s ex-member Russia stated that it was “famine caused by forced collectivization” and “strongly condemn the regime that has neglected the lives of people for the achievement of economic and political goals”. So no, it was not yet another periodically occurring famine
Step 1: Search “Famines in Russia”
Step 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droughts_and_famines_in_Russia_and_the_Soviet_Union
Thanks! I didn’t thought looking them up as “Famine in Russia”. We started this conversation from Holodomor. When Amnesigenic was speaking about “that area”, so I wrongly assumed we talking about Ukraine territory only. Not to say there was no famine in other places, just did have associations with broader famine of 31-33.
Going back to “periodic famine” argument, I don’t see how 3 times in 600 years is periodic and that’s including famine in 1315-17 which affected entire Europe all the way to England. I’m sure there were couple others which went under the radar.
But I think it’s delusional to claim Holodomor was not man-made taking into account that major USSR’s ex-member Russia stated that it was “famine caused by forced collectivization” and “strongly condemn the regime that has neglected the lives of people for the achievement of economic and political goals”. So no, it was not yet another periodically occurring famine