It’s not self-defeatist: Mamdani is a perfect example of the point I originally made about local elections. Yes, if we keep doing voting for people like that in local elecations, we might be able to dig our country out of this hole in a few decades. But he won because the “not into politics” voters don’t go to local elections - as far as they’re concerned, voting day only happens once every 4 years. If we want to win a presidential election with a similar candidate, we need to replace the entire democratic party with progressives, starting at the lowest level and waiting until they rise up to the top. It will take a long time, and it certainly requires no longer having a country full of people who just vote for their news company’s favorite, but it could definitely work.
But he won because the “not into politics” voters don’t go to local elections - as far as they’re concerned, voting day only happens once every 4 years
Mamdani won because a record number of those people came out and voted for him, dumbass.
I think you’re confusing “not into politics” voters with ‘disaffected’ voters. Those are the ones Mamdani won - it isn’t as if a flood of young ‘into politics’ voters popped out of nowhere in new york - those voters have always been there but simply never vote because democrats keep dumping cold water on populist reform.
Correct, and that’s what the democratic party is about. We only change that when we’ve swapped every candidate out from the bottom up. The democratic party had Cuomo. That’s who they backed, and it will be who they back every single time. We need to vote in the Mamdanis of the world at the bottom, then in the middle a few years later, then at the top years after that. Then we will get a leftist presidential candidate, because there won’t be any centrists left for the DNC to put forward. If even one centrist remains, that will be their candidate, and that is who all of the “not into politics” voters who think Mamdani is going to turn New York into a “socialist hellhole” will vote for.
Lmao, this is just cope my man. Mamdani won against the exact establishment and system of billionaires you keep claiming as the mechanism that will never allow a leftist candidate from reaching popular support
Cope? I’m ecstatic! I’m so glad that we managed to get politically-minded people to rush in under the larger group of “keep everything the same” voters’ noses! But to ignore that group, who accounts for the majority of voters in every presidential election, and is the reason 3rd parties never make it even close to being viable, is nothing short of ignorant.
You’re misunderstanding the turnout. The record number of voters that turned out are exactly those typical non-voters that you’re talking about.
Dems have been hemorrhaging their base because people don’t think they do anything for them, and a populist candidate like Mamdani is how democrats bring those disenfranchised voters back.
He is exactly the case in point i’m talking about. Calling those voters ‘politically-minded’ is the cope.
The non-voters for local elections that I’m talking about are the people who turn up for every presidential election to vote for the people their news show told them to. They’re the tens of millions of 50+ year-old people who think Trump is just another republican who needs to be replaced by just another democrat, and the world will be perfect again. Those people don’t care about local elections, because they specifically enjoy the current political system, and don’t care what new faces enter the political scene.
The people who turned up were the 20-somethings who are politically-minded and are going to change this world for the better if they can keep showing up to polls that the 50+ people ignore.
It’s not self-defeatist: Mamdani is a perfect example of the point I originally made about local elections. Yes, if we keep doing voting for people like that in local elecations, we might be able to dig our country out of this hole in a few decades. But he won because the “not into politics” voters don’t go to local elections - as far as they’re concerned, voting day only happens once every 4 years. If we want to win a presidential election with a similar candidate, we need to replace the entire democratic party with progressives, starting at the lowest level and waiting until they rise up to the top. It will take a long time, and it certainly requires no longer having a country full of people who just vote for their news company’s favorite, but it could definitely work.
Mamdani won because a record number of those people came out and voted for him, dumbass.
Yes, a record number for a local election, a huge amount of which were the younger voters who care much more than the “not into politics” boomers.
I think you’re confusing “not into politics” voters with ‘disaffected’ voters. Those are the ones Mamdani won - it isn’t as if a flood of young ‘into politics’ voters popped out of nowhere in new york - those voters have always been there but simply never vote because democrats keep dumping cold water on populist reform.
Correct, and that’s what the democratic party is about. We only change that when we’ve swapped every candidate out from the bottom up. The democratic party had Cuomo. That’s who they backed, and it will be who they back every single time. We need to vote in the Mamdanis of the world at the bottom, then in the middle a few years later, then at the top years after that. Then we will get a leftist presidential candidate, because there won’t be any centrists left for the DNC to put forward. If even one centrist remains, that will be their candidate, and that is who all of the “not into politics” voters who think Mamdani is going to turn New York into a “socialist hellhole” will vote for.
Lmao, this is just cope my man. Mamdani won against the exact establishment and system of billionaires you keep claiming as the mechanism that will never allow a leftist candidate from reaching popular support
Cope? I’m ecstatic! I’m so glad that we managed to get politically-minded people to rush in under the larger group of “keep everything the same” voters’ noses! But to ignore that group, who accounts for the majority of voters in every presidential election, and is the reason 3rd parties never make it even close to being viable, is nothing short of ignorant.
You’re misunderstanding the turnout. The record number of voters that turned out are exactly those typical non-voters that you’re talking about.
Dems have been hemorrhaging their base because people don’t think they do anything for them, and a populist candidate like Mamdani is how democrats bring those disenfranchised voters back.
He is exactly the case in point i’m talking about. Calling those voters ‘politically-minded’ is the cope.
The non-voters for local elections that I’m talking about are the people who turn up for every presidential election to vote for the people their news show told them to. They’re the tens of millions of 50+ year-old people who think Trump is just another republican who needs to be replaced by just another democrat, and the world will be perfect again. Those people don’t care about local elections, because they specifically enjoy the current political system, and don’t care what new faces enter the political scene.
The people who turned up were the 20-somethings who are politically-minded and are going to change this world for the better if they can keep showing up to polls that the 50+ people ignore.