• MoodyPotato@piefed.world
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    It’s true there are top performers.

    to your points\

    • Graduates have consistently learned more on the job than in school even before GPT\
    • Exceptional doesn’t mean top company placement. Many exceptional people fall between the cracks.
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      Yes I learned how to be a professional on the job. But I had taken on hard problems that I didn’t know how to solve at first and figured them out myself, just as part of being a lonely nerd.

      If you ask gpt to figure everything out for you (which I believe is currently possible in a typical undergrad program), you won’t even have that baseline of having learned to unstick yourself, which is the foundation.

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        I promise there is a younger person who feels the same way. A lot of this is personality. They were saying the same things back when calculators were introduced.

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          I think the difference is that you couldn’t ride a calculator to get a bachelor’s degree in a “stem” field, and I think you can now.

          There are more useless cs grads than ever.

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            Depends what the grade structure is like, in my one college CS class homework could probably have been GPT’d (didn’t exist yet) but tests were 75% of your grade and were handwritten in a proctored hall. Mostly they involved pseudocode and showing knowledge of data structures and algorithms rather than specific coding requirements. That couldn’t be GPT’d, at least not with competent proctors and a time limit, so you couldn’t pass without some competence even if the specific coding syntax went over your head.