• FabioTheNewOrder@lemmy.world
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    And you still haven’t provided neutral evidences of what you call “ethnic cleansing” while I’ve provided you a report showing a steady decrease in violent deaths between 2014 and 2022 produced by the UN while Russia was still sitting in the board and confirmed the numbers cited.

    Also, how is Ukraine still capable of fighting against Russia if the majority of its people are not nazi and should be against their government according to you? Wouldn’t they be fighting alongside the russian should they want to be freed from their “tyrannical” government? And yet they are still fighting almost 4 years into this war. Unbelievable how much they love tyranny in that country

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      I gave western sources that are biased against Russia and pro-Kiev still admitting to the ethnic cleansing campaign. Secondly, war in Ukraine is unpopular! They have to rely on forced conscription to keep the war going. There’s a decent amount of nationalists in Ukraine that support the Banderites just like there are a decent number of MAGA supporters outside of the government in the US Empire, but by and large the war is unpopular. That’s also why Kiev is finally trying to concede and reach a peace deal.

      You’ve got this thought terminating ideology where if something disagrees with your far-right narrative, you immediately disagree with it, even if the sources are from outlets that share your world view.

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        Western sources that are bought and paid by the kremlin like Pim Tool, Benny Johnson and all those involved in the Tenet Media scandal? Thanks but I prefer official sources instead of unverified and biased blog posts.

        The war is so unpopular that russian hasn’t been able to conquer no complete control on those regions still under its occupation. They are so beloved by Ukrainians that they cannot even have a stable form of government due to the lack of administrative personnel. What a support from the common population!!!

        Another thing are the eventual crimes committed during the war. Both Ukraine and Russia are doing terrible acts in this war and indipendent tribunals should be able to keep the perpetrators of such acts accountable once the war will end. But, ask yourself, had Russia not started this war would these war crimes ever been committed? The answer is no, of course, so in my eyes Russia still is the root cause for all the needles suffering both these countries are going through

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          Sources like the BBC, New York Times, The Guardian, The Hill, Jacobin, Reuters, The Natiob, and Al Jazeera are “paid by the Kremlin?” I know fascists like you thrive on irrationality, but there’s a limit to denying reality.

          From davel’s compilation:

          Ukraine ethnically cleansing the Donbass region, which popularly supports Russia, is what started the war. The Euromaidan coup is what kicked off the war in 2014, Russia entered in 2022 after the Minsk agreements failed. Had NATO not couped Ukraine, the war would have never happened.

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            I see a lot of articles about fascism in Ukraine but very few sources about an “ethnic cleansing” while, on thr other hand, the numbers provided with a in report show that the killing was almost halted before 2022, when Russia attacked and the deaths skyrocketed.

            I’m an Italian, I live in Italy and I can tell you most of the fascists around here either strive to serve in the military or in the police force. Yet I’d hardly define Italy a fascist state, even if we’re currently ran by a fascist-adjecent government. Still our judiciary, legal and police powers remain completely unrelated and indipendent and we citizens can vote out our government every 5 years (if it lasts that long, of course).

            On the other hand, can you say the same for Russia and Belarus?

            Oh, how I love being told I am irrational from you, you should have worked in a cinema since you’re so good at projecting

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              Fascism has never been stopped by electoralism. Fascism is capitalism in decay. Italy is absolutely capable of being considered fascist, it’s an imperialist country with a right-wing government. I also gave you clear examples of Kiev suppressing ethnic Russians, slaughtering them and erasing their language. You’re projecting hard and trying to hide behind insults.

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                Ok dude, I hope you’ll be happy once we will all be oppressed under your own kind of regime where disse terms are sent to gulags and there can be no other idea outside that imposed by the party.

                Now go support Russia with Tucker Carlson, Steve Bannon and their ilk, I heard they are having troubles finding good tools like you lately

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                  I think it’s a good thing when the working class is in charge and capitalism, fascism, slavery, and monarchy is eradicated and those who would uphold them are frustrated by force.

                  Keep supporting western imperialism, homophobia, racism, Euronationalism, and anti-communism with Tucker Carlson, Steve Bannon, Adolf Hitler, Pinochet, Milei, Trump, Kier Starmer, Merz, Macron, Netanyahu, Zelensky, and all your far-right buddies.

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                    Again, tge one on the same side if Carlson and Bannon ia not me, it’s you. Also, when china was squashing the Tibetan or the Hong Kong manifestations against their regime do you think all people in the streets were capitalist swines? Or there may have been some workers among the ones who were violently targeted by the Chinese government?

                    Furthermore, is Taiwan a free country and are it’s citizens free to choose their own future without inferences from the Xi regime?

                    Lastly, do you think LGBT people should be allowed to live their lives as they please or should they be squashed into a black box away from society because their lifestyle does not conform to the standard idea of family?

                    Looking forward to your totally not fascist opinions on these issues!!! :*