In short: To be considered not poor in China you have to have full access to healthcare, edcuation a relatively decent income, solid housing and so on.

They did not “pat thremselves on the back” for givcing them the “possibility” of making above 1,90 bucks a day.

What you described is ABSOLUTE poverty(not the possibility of making that money, but actually doing so is the definition. Just the possibility would be considered a failure by chinese standards), the form of poverty(also called relative poverty) which China has fully eradicated not too long ago. China defines relative poverty much more broadly.

Then They’d have done no pushups in the last 6 years and thus had atrophied muscles.

Well, you deserve an answer regarding your economic question for the way. Russias economy is doing pretty well, its government used the time from 2014 onwards to create alternatives to western markets. For example gas and oil go to India(who resells some to the EU) and China now. And the US who, of course, does not comply with the sanctions. Another factor of Russias resilience to western sanctions is the historical fact that the west sanctions non-western countries all the time. This created a situation in which most of the world is under western sanctions of varous kinds, the sanctioned countries are less inclined to follow western dictates regarding Russia. So Russia still can trade with most of the world.

Meanwhile Europe did expect to get cheap gas as always no matter how much it antagonized Russia. Unfortunately for them, Russia did not renew the delivery contract it had with the EU countries(which would guarantee delivery for a pre-settled price). Leading to the EU having to buy Russian gas on the spot market (highly variable prices). Some EU countries did not antagonize Russia as much, and thus had their contract renewed, thney got fucked another way by big daddy Washington. With the US blowing up Northstream 2 and Ukraine stopping transit over its territory, the EU is physically cut off from Russian gas and and has to find alternatives fast.

One adress was Qatar, who can not cover the demand. Another was the US, who can but wants multiple times what Russia demanded. Furthermore, in either case the delivery would happen in liquified form. Which is ecologically problematic to say the least.

Liquidification requires lots of energie and produces a shitload of CO2 emissions. Driving it over by special ships (of which not enough exist) again pumps lots of CO2 out and poisons the oceans because the large ship machines are using the absolute worst for fuel. That stuff then has to get on land, sufficient terminals only existed in Spain, in Germany they had to be built ignoring safety standards, because they were needed asap. The US gas is extracted from shale, as a side effect of shale oil extraction. This process poisons the land and water, leading to tab water being flamable in many parts of the US.

Overall this means rising energy costs in the west, which means less favourable conditions of energy intensive companies. The US solves that way by pulling all restrictions regarding shale oil extraction, digging up Alaska and so on and providing tax incentives for companies moving to the US - in short: They loot their vassal states in Europe.

Europe is fucked. Which, of course, leads to tensions within NATO. Especially as the US wants the euros to shoulder the cost of their occupation now, too. Teh EU countries have already been weakened by austerity and neoliberal politics, now have to pump billions into their militaries. Said money is created via debt on one side, via further cuts on social services on the other, creating internal tensions. Said tensions can be observed by the rise of the far right in every EU country.

Another reason for inter NATO and EU tensions is the fact that the countries in the Eu who did not antagonize Russia, now also are fucked. Because the US and it’s ukranian dog blocked direct pipelines.

So put together the situation, the EU got fucked by the US and its own stupidity, Ukraine got fucked by NATO, EU, US and its own stupidity, Russia got away cleanly, the US got away cleanly at the cost of its imperial periphery. Climate Change won big. Humanity lost big.

“To be an enemy of the United States is risky, to be an ally is fatal.”

That would make both states just two more puppet states the US eventually shot in the head. At no point did these states oppose the US empire, they were just good lapdogs until daddy US took them behind the shed and put a bullet to their head.

I’m pretty new to Lemmy, but I start to understand how these places works, and jezz, lemmy.ml seems a spin off of RT.

Lemmy does not have the bot farms curating pro-western opinions. If you adopted those opinions via osmosis (happens to the best of us, that’s why those bots exist.), their abscence is bound to weird you out.

Both Palestine and Russia are on the western “to be conquered”-list. The difference that Russia can muster enough military power to directly oppose those plans. Palestine is in amuch worse position. Both however, are support worthy because of their place on that list.

That power is the US…

Maybe actually learn what happened before 22. We had a neat little thread about this recently: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/7112898

“The lost war must continue because I love it when people die.” - You

If you love war so much, go there and get yourself killed.

I am sure you can provide sufficiently strong evidence to shoulder your burden of proof? Because the US, the state with the most extensive espionage systems and dozens of secret services could not.

If you claim China is commiting genocide provide the evidence. You made the claim, you have to provide the evidence, that is how ther burden of proof works. Said evidence must withstand scrutiny, of course. Anyone can make up official looking bullshit.

China isn’t crappy tho.

You information is about 10 years out of date.

Assuming China wants to control the western world or any world at all shows how you have no idea what you’re talking about.

It might suprise you, but not everyone is the USA.

Nah it would be better.

Of course you are operating under the childish assumption that either of them would act like the USA, which is nonsense. Neither ever did so in their history. Russia was always happy to stay to itself and be secure, that meant you had a great neighbour and trade partner if you did not fuck with it. China could have conquered most of its neighbours multiple times it its history, but rarely ventured out of what are now the chinese borders, historically extremely defensive and trade oriented.

meanwhile the USA has been at peace for less than 15 years during its entire history. Of all those wars, almost all were ones of aggression.

You compare two sane people to a frothing berserker yelling “MAIM! KILL! BURN! LOOT!” ad infinitum.

Not that Klanada is better.

The USA would, however, also see that the USA is thoroughly anti-communist and corrupt as hell, so the USA would just the buy out the politcal leadership of the USA to turn the USA a disposable puppet state

The specific problem with both systems is that only one of them actually exists. The chinese one is not a thing.

Considering the brits alone managed to kill 100 million people in India alone over a span of 30 years, I think you are mistaken. Capitalism is a mass murder machine.

Ah yes, famous invasions during the 90s. Where NATO expanded a shitload after promising not to.

Also your knowledge of these events is lackluster. Gerogia attacked Russia, not the other way around (one couldsay Russia over reacted, but that does not change the fact who initiated hostilities). Chechnya was a civil war (a country can’t invade itself). Crimea seceeded. So all of your examples are wrong.

Oh and Russia asked to join NATO in the eaely 2000s. Got denied.

IF you want to go further back it gets even better. NATO was founded before the Warsaw Treaty Org, the latter was founded after the USSR asked to join NATO and was denied.

You are correct that NATO is a anti soviet/anti russian alliance, but not for the reasons you think.

Decades prior.

Fun fact : The rebells in Star Wars were modelled after the Viet Minh, the Empire after the USA.