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  • I think you have a very different perspective from me on what OP was asking and what this thread is.

    Indeed it seems so. I read it more as

    OP: “I believe porn can ruin your mind and sex habits, how do we acknowledge this without delving into conservatism on the issue.”

    You: “wtf porn doesn’t ruin your life, you’re in a rabbit hole and your entire premise is wrong”

    Me: “Porn can ruin your life, why would you suggest it can’t? Look at gooners”

    I feel you have to actually understand and acknowledge the real potential effects of pornography in order to find the line between recognition of harmful effects and conservatism.


  • TonoManza@lemmygrad.mltoMemes@lemmy.mlDelection
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    1 month ago

    This wasn’t the Democrats being failed

    Correct.

    it was the whole country being failed

    Exactly, by the Democrats.

    It wasn’t about voting for the Democrats

    Hence why people didn’t vote for Democrats. They had no reason.

    and there was only one way to effectively do that.

    Do you think it was about voting democrats. You just think they should be able to do literally whatever they want, including genocide.

    they’re just posting memes about how everyone didn’t push back against the democrats hard enough

    More like they’re posting about how the Democrats should have listened when we were posting the same things before ethe election, but you not only willfully ignored us, you distanced yourself. Now that it over and we were right, you’re mad at the messenger.



  • I didn’t say you invent those phrases, I said that you harshly dismissed them with no recognition of the limited truth they hold, so why would you expect me to know you recognize the nuance?

    How can I “put some ridiculous binary statement” in your mouth when I’m just reacting to the binary you already presented.

    It like if someone says " all drugs are bad because they ruin your life".

    and you say “wtf that’s not true, drugs don’t ruin your life” without mentioning that you’re only talking about some drugs.

    Obviously I’m going to point out that, no, drugs can ruin your life if you partake in them the wrong way, because drug addicts do have a problem and you dismissed it through ignoring it, even if that’s not your intention. I can’t know your hidden intentions, only what you post.


  • Porn wrecks your mind?

    Porn stops your sexuality? Wtf.

    you shouldn’t assume even your starting framework is agreed upon

    Why wonder about people who think porn stunts their sexuality (still wtf?!?)

    You mentioned it multiple times but the only things you said about these statements were harshly dismissive and didn’t provide any sort of nuance so why would it be ridiculous for me to respond as if there wasn’t nuance in your opinion? I don’t know what’s in your heart/mind, only what you say.













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    1 month ago

    Do you think this will have an impact on the actual genocide, though? Do you feel like you’ve done enough? Can you fairly and honestly say this is something you care about if this is your only action regarding this problem?

    1. Yes. Trump’s incompetence is much more likely to lead to failure.

    2. No. While you still draw breath and the genocide is ongoing, you can never say you’ve done enough.

    3. Where did I say this was my only action? I specifically called it my “most basic” action, indicating I view it as one of the easiest/least impactful.

    Did I remove any relevant context?

    Yes, and I provided the context directly under where I accused you of removing it. I was speaking of the “white male” group you singled out in relation to other groups. You made it seem as if I was singling you personally out in relation to other groups.

    This is the last I’ll say on it, since we both agree that the sex, gender and ethnicity of the other is irrelevant.

    Any chance on giving that statement second thought? I think you’ll find something interesting.

    I’ve thought about it and have determined that white males do not face unique forms of discrimination due to them being white males, simply the same capitalist oppressions which used to be reserved for others. So to single them out as a unique group that is discriminated against is not based in reality.

    "When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression "

    I’m unfamiliar with the term. Maybe if you clarify I can tell you if I feel identified with the definition.

    Someone who’s desire for engaging in and “winning” internet debates is libidinal.

    Erm… So by me suggesting their vote was lost, i implied they were victims?

    No, suggesting that their vote was lost due to the democratic party “denying their humanity, feelings and fears” implies they are victims of having those things stripped away.

    Under my perspective, everyone deserves to be listened to, have their humanity accepted and treated with respect (even in situations of conflict and mutual destruction). You, me, white males, bolivians, jews, palestines, fundies, tankies, billionaires, criminals, war criminals, nazis, hitler, genghis khan. Everyone.

    So we have a core disagreement here (though I don’t see the relevance).

    Respect is freely given but can be lost. How do you respect Nazis? Baby Hitler did nothing wrong sure, adult Hitler is a different story. We didn’t beat Hitler by hearing him out and defeating him in the marketplace of ideas. We pushed the Nazis in and he ate a bullet.

    My original point was about the consequences of the lack of willingness to convey these basic forms of empathy to white males in the election (this doesn’t imply i consider them victims. I don’t.)

    Another core disagreement.

    1. these things were conveyed to white males. Far more than any other group. I’m expected to vote democratic party despite a genocide of my brothers and sisters in faith…Dems literally adopted Trump’s white nativist policies to try and appeal to white males and {1}you’re justifying their lack of support while combatting mine…

    2. being stripped of your “humanity, feelings and fears” and having to face a total lack of empathy in the system, would be victimization. It’s just not something they face.

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    If Trump is such a threat to the American people, maybe liberals should oppose him and do their own Jan 6. Will I see you there? Or is that too risky for you and you’d rather yell at people for not expressing support for the Democrats genocide?

    Genocide isn’t a political football to be tossed around. It’s the most disgusting and atrocious thing someone can do.

    If you aren’t even willing to risk yourself to truly oppose him, why are you worth more than all Palestinians combined?