the Jewish diaspora started during the Roman period. dring any Muslim control of the land the Jewish people were more or less welcomed and had a good life there.

so people have spent time measuring the quality of life of cats, specifically their reaction to food and they have found nonsignificant difference.

I can show you.

how would you measure quality of life for cats and their food?

I presume you would be happy if it was formulated and checked by independent animal nutritionists to meet the AAFCO(USA) and FEDIAF(Europe) guidelines for animal nutrition.

they seem independent enough.

Hardly tree hugging hippies.

Hardly magical thinking.

the data so far in encouraging. The food is engineered and independently tested.

it has the approval of agencies that exist to make sure animals are cared for.

that’s hardly magical thinking.

sure. But the indications so far are that it is fine.

they do have world class teams preparing the food.

Also, they have independent bodies verifying that the food is suitable.

seems good enough for me.

But if the food is found to be nutritious and the cats enjoyed it, you would be happy?

Like this food for example:

Benevo Katzenfutter vegan trocken (10 https://amzn.eu/d/8M4dOjN

the meta analysis found no major implications to health.

it found some possible benefits

it’s very cautious and highlights possible biases.

Much of these data were acquired from guardians via survey-type studies, but these can be subject to selection biases, as well as subjectivity around the outcomes. However, these beneficial findings were relatively consistent across several studies and should, therefore, not be disregarded.

It’s hardly radical, and with proper care cats can be fed a nutritious and tasty diet with not animal products.

you do understand that people are not force feeding cats cucumbers. the food is indistinguishable from the meat versions.

here:

Benevo Katzenfutter vegan trocken (10 https://amzn.eu/d/eXsCn6F

so obviously provide your cat with nutritious food. if the cat is not eating the food then find something it will eat.

at the moment these are new fields of studies.

there is food available that is vegan, palatable and nutritious.

so there is no problem.

quality of life is subjective to measure at the best of time.

The findings so far so do not demonstrate a problem if the cat is cared for.

nice to reach a sensible and happy conclusion with someone in this thread.

Cheers mate!

So I have shown that there is evidence that vegan cat food is palatable and nutritious.

We should therefore be able to agree that it is not animal abuse.

Benevo Cat is a professional cat food, created by Benevo in 2005, formulated and checked by independent animal nutritionists to meet the AAFCO(USA) and FEDIAF(Europe) guidelines for animal nutrition.

Is that good enough?

If only we could harness the power of you moving the goal posts

well then I don’t know what to tell you.

It seems that you keep moving the goal posts.

there is research that be shows the diet does.not seems to be harmful.

there is evidence that the cats enjoy the food.

there are companies selling the food in the UK for 17 years.

I can tell you that people in the UK love their animals. Vegans generally would not want to hurt their own cat.

you have to make your mind up beyond that.

I hope at least you can see that it is not a completely radical thing to do these days.

that’s how you measure quality of life. the other option would be doing it in a lab with test subject. which I’m sure you would not appreciate.

And, adequate care. there seems to be a slight benefit rather than a danger to the cats.

which elements are you particularly concerned about?

It says ‘complete nutrition’. Do you trust this less than other brands which are often composite foods?

you realise that vegans are not force-feeding cats cucumbers and lettuce right?.

It’s scientifically formulated biscuits. That cats enjoy.

more research needs to be done. for sure. but as you can see, the research so far supports the idea that a plant based diet is healthy for a cat.

Which part of the report do you disagree with? Which part of the report contradicts what I am saying?