i’m not an expert, but here’s my take.

personally i question when such movements take power that we should interpret it as consent by the public majority.

part of the reason the public apparently bestow power to the machinery of government is because the machinery is supposed to protect them from this very thing happening.

the fact that it is happening, means such a rise in fact did not occur within the correct functioning of that machine.

therefore we should probably question whether we should interpret it as consent by the majority.

and if its not consent by the majority, then in some ways the picture is both bleaker and brighter.

brighter, because you’re not surrounded by quite so many evil fucks as they wanted you to believe

bleaker, well, probably don’t need to explain that bit

ok fair enough, sorry i may have misinterpreted what you meant.

it sounds like your argument is that if the attacker doesn’t know the service is running then the assertion that this reduces the risk profile is classified as an obscurity control - this argument is correct under these conditions.

however, certain knocking configurations are not obscurity, because their purpose & value does not depend on the hope that the attacker is unaware of the service’s existence but rather to reduce the attacker’s window of access to the service with a type of out of band whitelisting. by limiting the attacker’s access to the service you are reducing the attack surface.

you can imagine it like a stack call trace, the deeper into the trace you go, every single instruction represents the attack surface getting larger and larger. the earlier in the trace you limit access to the attacker, you are by definition reducing the attack surface.

in case i’ve misinterpreted what you meant. susceptibility to a replay attack does not mean something isn’t a security measure. it means it’s a security measure with a vulnerability. ofc replay attacks in knocking is a well known problem addressed long ago.

perhaps the other source of miscommunication is for us to remember that security is about layers, because no single layer is ever going to be perfect.

if you can’t work out what port knocking might have to do with whitelisting then i’m not sure what you hoped to contribute towards reducing misconceptions in the conversation

would you classify out of band whitelisting by IP (or other session characteristic[s]) as having no security merit whatsoever?

would you classify it as purely a decision regarding network congestion & optimisation?

you’re ofc free to define these things however you wish, but in a form which is helpful to OP’s question i’m not sure i follow you.

it’s funny, i visited there once with a friend, we also discussed fairies in that area. i wonder what is the cause of such a seeming coincidence.

while the most bare bones knocking implementation may be classed as obscurity, there’s certainly plenty of implementations which i wouldn’t class as obscurity.

People iterate through all the IPv4 addresses since there are only 4,294,967,296 possible addresses. There are 340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456 possible IPv6 addresses

i love your thinking!!

do you have a backup in case you accidentally find yourself locked out from an ipv4-only network?

i feel like this is a good place to mention the ship shipping ships

https://www.superyachtshipping.com/

searching for ‘phpbb <topic name>’ can usually bring up a few struggling to dead forums for niche communities which are being sadly absorbed into bigtech monoliths

no, that illustration apparently came 12 years later

anyway as an 1800s fairy tale for children, imo i think it’s fine to view it through the lens of whichever culture you want. the trouble imo begins when trying to ascribe something to the story which it certainly did not contain - even that is probably basically harmless if you’re just confused or something, but it certainly becomes a problem when it’s used to justify unfairly shitting on someone else for a slightly different yet completely harmless alternative depiction.

it’s even worse than that cos the original text never said ariel’s human version race, they just assumed it lol.

and before anyone says yes but its written by a dane, my response is yes but it’s a fairy tale, anything is possible. why assume and then get angry based on your assumption?

well yeah most of its operating software was derived from opensource projects, but capitalists exploited those opensource project without giving much if anything back, so…

a ridiculous number of arguments are because people misunderstand what they’re actually arguing over.

it’s crazy how helpful it can be to stop, and check what they meant before responding to it.

apart from the obvious benefits, it can also make a nice pause for everyone to calm just a little, and also shows you’re making an effort to understand which can be helpful too.

anywhere shit gets cliquey it gets toxic real fast - and that goes for ANY and ALL organisations.

safe-space concepts often inherently deals with an “us/them” dichotomy, which is unfortunately fertile ground for things getting cliquey.

it’s not that one must lead to the other, its just that the foundation is there so the risk is higher if it’s not managed properly.

this is why safe-spaces need to be protected from within and without. regardless of whether you’re in the clique or out of it, it hurts everyone in the end.

who?

where/how/what are you eating copper which permits you to taste it?

is the machine the problem? that seems more like a philosophical or semantic debate.

the machine is not fit for the advertised purpose.

to some people that means the machine has a fault.

to others that means the human salesperson is irresponsibly talking bs about their unfinished product

imo an earnest reading of the logs has to acknowledge at least potential evidence of openai’s monetisation loop at play in a very murky situation.

tldr: VM->RDP seamless render

WinApps works by: Running Windows in a Docker, Podman or libvirt virtual machine. Querying Windows for all installed applications. Creating shortcuts to selected Windows applications on the host GNU/Linux OS. Using FreeRDP as a backend to seamlessly render Windows applications alongside GNU/Linux applications.

no, they steal everything.

why do we keep letting them steal

‘free speech’ has always been about the freedom of the oppressed to fight upwards against their oppressor with language - but now they stole it & trying to make it mean their freedom to oppress minorities.

same for ‘woke’ - it used to mean basic human decency, once again they stole it & warped it’s meaning by pretending they’re the victims and it’s preventing their freedom (ie. their freedom to be a bigot).

same for ‘political correctness’, which was originally a criticism of using fake concern over moral issues for political agenda (sounds familiar), now warped beyond use.

swastika - used for THOUSANDS of years before the fucking nazis came along & stole it. now the cultures it actually belongs to get hate for practicing their ancient beliefs.

pepe and many others are a long list of things they steal and ruin.

why do we keep letting them steal?