Aside from the wars in Ukraine and Palestine, i can’t think of a single alleged or proven “human rights abuse” story since 2020 that got more western press coverage than Xinjiang and the Uighurs. To say it’s being “kept quiet” is a fucking hilarious accusation.

kept quiet

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

They did have their culture/religion repressed; not in totality but many practices are disallowed or only conditionally allowed. Many innocents are compelled to attend re-education centers that may in some cases restrict certain religious practices.

It’s bad, in the way stop-and-frisk, racial profiling, or ten commandments schools are bad; it’s not Auschwitz, in fact the camps and prisons the US sends people to are far closer to that level of depravity. The bickering you often see online about whether it’s “genocide” is sometimes from a bad faith bombastic comparison to Nazi Germany usually rooted in misinformation (Thai BDSM clubs were once photographed and claimed to be “Uighur torture facility”; another photo of a bunch of Uighurs sitting in chairs had the chairs cropped out to make it look like they were forced to sit on the ground, just a couple examples), but other times it’s based on the argument that what is being done functionally constitutes a cultural genocide which I personally think is worthy of discussion.

I disagree; I don’t think there’s any clear cut line at which you go from “normal” to “dystopia”; societies are dystopian by the extent to which they fail to be utopian. Fictional larger than life examples of “dystopia” grab our attention by presenting decades or centuries of changes in the blink of an eye. Often such societies aren’t even more repressive than our current ones; they just are more striking in presentation. And when they ARE more repressive it’s not because someone pushed the dystopia button; it’s from very long recurring events that push the slider to worse and worse positions.

AGI isn’t real and AI is a money pit of garbage.

What a pointless argument. At what point of societal ill do you go from “normal” or whatever to “dystopia”? You don’t. Dystopia is a relative term; in a sense everything is dystopian so long as you can imagine a better world; it’s the negation of utopia. Arguing “how close we are to dystopia” is missing the point; we should be arguing about what makes our society better versus worse, not getting hung up on classification labels.