Rinse - Plebbit Dev

What do you mean fragmented?

If you run a community on Plebbit, you’re responsible for its own moderation, or you can assign somebody else to moderate it.

What is there to regulate? We the devs aren’t hosting anything. Is the Bittorrent founder responsible for regulating data transmitted on his protocol?

Plebbit is not built on top of blockchains, it’s a pure p2p network akin to Bittorrent. We do have integrations with crypto, like blockchain name systems but that’s a good thing because they’re more censorship resistant than traditional DNS

Each peer is a server That’s not true, you can be a peer in the network without posting or seeding anything to the network.

peer that created the “sub” have control to be able to moderate things If you create your own community, you will be able to moderate it, yes. Why would people create communities when it can’t be moderated?

With Plebbit there’s no global admins like Reddit, so you fully own your community and nobody can take it away from you.

You have to maintain your peer always online, because it’s a server If the community node is down, but other peers in the network are online and providing the community’s data, then people will still be able to read and navigate the community in read-only mode. They can’t publish new votes/comments/edits to it, because all updates has to come from the community node.

Traffic happens over IPFS, which is sloooooow Not true, try the desktop app of Seedit and you will see for yourself.

Difference is it’s a pure p2p network with no need for anyone to set up their own DNS/TLS/etc, so that brings the barrier of entry for running your node way lower. When you download the desktop app of Seedit for example, you’re essentailly running a full p2p node in the background.

That is way more censorship resistant than say, Mastodon or ActivityPub-based socials

we have nothing to do with 4chan, not sure why you mention it here.

We do have integrations with crypto, like blockchain name systems but that’s a good thing because they’re more censorship resistant than traditional DNS

It’s a terrible analogy, I think of Plebbit as the Bittorrent of social media. Plebbit is not built on top of a blockchain, it’s a pure p2p network

You don’t need the token to post or create your own community or anything like that. Our plans for the token is to be used for tipping (in a decentralized manner, without relaying on payment processors) and voting within Plebbit clients (which is up to the client dev).

serves only to enrich the owners Assuming Plebbit token gets massive appreciation, we now as the community have a lot of funds to spend on developing new clients to replace centralized web2 platforms like:

• Discord
• Telegram
• Meetup
• Vbulletin
• Discourse
• Facebook groups

A project appreciating in value is not a bad thing, it’s not a bad thing when you pay developer teams to push p2p decentralized social media.

Voting power decided by buying power is about the most undemocratic system possible short of autocracy

The token is not forced upon anyone, and even if we start including it in the clients somehow, anybody can fork the clients and remove any token related stuff out of it.

Tokenizing your own project is a great way of supporting development without selling shares to VCs who only care about hyper growth, regardless of the ideals of the project.

Obfuscating the purpose and structure of your organization to either intentionally or unwittingly dodge regulations that would protect your shareholders is not a great look.

Not sure what you mean by that, everything we do is out in the open.

How do you think the token affects the decentralization of the project?

Plebbit is text only, hard to imagine the kind of illegal material that will be sneaked that way. If anybody want to share illegal material, they’re probably using tor not a pure p2p solution which is easier to trace.

Yeah I don’t mind having an account on Bluesky, and will be making one shortly.

Ideally hosting your node should be easier, it doesn’t seem they care about it that much which concerns me

99.99% of cases won’t matter because most people won’t seed random content forever. If the sub owner purge it from their node, I highly doubt anybody else would come across it unless there’s like a group dedicated to seeding and sharing removed content

There will be no way for new people to discover the purged content through the community itself.

Now, if you had the CID of a purged content and there are people seeding it to you, then yes Plebbit functions like any P2P network in which anyone can fetch a content that’s seeded by somebody

But then who’s hosting my content and till when they’re hosting it?

There’s a button in the UI to purge comment from your community as a mod. What will happen is:

• The comment will be removed from your node
• The comment will be removed from your community pages (people who load your community won’t see it)

because if images are hosted on ipfs

Plebbit is text-only protocol, all images in the clients are links to image hosting websites.

Biggest text you can embed is 30kb, and that is configurable by communities and they can choose to lower that

If somebody does something illegal, it’s up to the government to act on it. Also users of clients can choose to omit certain communities or keywords from their feed. This is a healthier approach than letting a few dudes in Silicon valley telling us what to see/think