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What’s the point of anything you aren’t immediately good at?

And still somehow a thousand times more real than Limp fucking Bizkit

Fred Durst is and has always been a boot sucking poser. He has never protested anything beyond a groupie telling him “no.”

OP was born in 1991 and was too young to have lived through the proper grunge revolution, but was just the right age to experience the corporate grunge poser revolution.

Limp Bizkit does not deserve to be anywhere near this list. They are a piss stain on the seat of the limo Kurt Kobain’s brother rented for Prom.

Needs more void*

Normalize office masterbation.

Am I allowed to be naked as long as the door is closed?

What is the time code for micromanaging my calendar to fend off pointless meetings?

Me, thanking my houseguests for asking if I have a favorite model train, understanding that their polite engagement is consent to hear the abridged version of my “history of trains” presentation which only takes three hours:

Yes basically all of our machines are Linux.

Are we talking about the Christians who very explicitly opposed the concept of a religious state? The ones who put that concept front and center in their Bill of Rights?

Again, it’s shocking how on this singular issue, we find “if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear” acceptable.

Yes that thread is quite literally just describing forum politics, based on a very small amount of feedback from a select group of individuals discussing the matter in back channels.

Simply put, admins were not satisfied just banning the agents for voting and the user for commenting. This is entirely a perception issue and caused no actual problems besides feels. This caused the implementation of trusted instances which was actually a flawed concept. Rather than iteration on the idea, the pressure from other admins caused it to be abandoned unceremoniously with almost zero input from users. I’m not sure how you can interpret this as anything other than forum politics.

I agree, except we should leave the basic mechanic and just make it a placebo.

Nobody sets out to be doxxed, but it happens. And as it stands on the fediverse, when it happens the consequences are potentially even greater because all activity is available to all subscribers. All I am asking is for these simple facts to be acknowledged when we have this discussion. The potential risk profile for using Lemmy is greater than reddit in many ways. My frustration with how people approach this conversation is that they all too frequently dismiss or ignore this simple fact.

It doesn’t need to be like this though. There are simple ways to mitigate this, but people are weirdly hostile to them, and I believe it is specifically because they do not acknowledge this additional risk.

Piefed literally already implemented voting agents and it worked fine until forum politics killed it.

Public votes do absolutely nothing to stop people from making a bunch of users on a bunch of instances and voting from those users. Voting agents are a simple solution to the issue, since you can still just ban the voting agent if it seems problematic.

But there’s a deeper context here, which is we are drawing a weird line between voting being a fundamental, if not critical part of the application, but also apparently grounds for imposing sanctions on users for doing it wrong? That’s a fundamentally flawed mechanic no matter how you swing it, since you can’t standardize any singular set of rules, and we are already seeing a rapid escalation of tit for tat vote bans. This is just unsustainable and is pushing things towards an obvious endpoint where there is such a chilling effect on voting that it negates the entire utility of the mechanic for sorting and content curation.

Piefed did it with voting agents and it worked fine. The reason they rolled it back was just forum politics, because admins didn’t like not knowing who was voting, even though they could just ban the agent if they wanted. This, incidentally is just more reason to hate the idea of public votes.

I don’t understand why everyone is so dismissive of this being a problem. Especially considering it is easily mitigated using simple voting agents.

It’s not just a privacy concern either, I promise you that trolls love being able to see which accounts are engaging with them in order to target certain demographics. Like we know this kind of shit has been used to manipulate elections already, and people here are just like “well I guess that’s just the world now.”