Honestly, what I use is not what I would recommend. ;-) My own setup follows these directions (TL;DR: OpenBSD, as much OOTB OpenBSD software as possible, and Dovecot.)

I am happy to recommend it to others.

If they ever support non-Docker systems again, I might be curious. Right now, I couldn’t even use that.

Note that you don’t know what the hosters know, store and/or sell about you.

I’m glad that you see my point that “other people hosting your data” is not really a good idea.

They host software for anyone to use, and capture all the data, usage patterns, etc, for themselves, to use for their benefit, and to use against you.

So I guess that we can agree that data stored on other people’s computers will not be safe. I honestly wonder why you think other people’s computers are safer if you know their names.

And you want to sit here and tell me they’re the answer?

I would be very grateful if you would only judge what I have written and not what you think I might have meant.

Are you just an apologist for FAANG, etc?

There is no reason to attack me personally, my friend.

Who’s paying you to post this disinformation?

Just in case I’m fundamentally misunderstanding your personal attack so I don’t report it to the moderators without cause: What is ‘disinformation’ about my pointing out that Google and Facebook host software for other people (even if they have their own motives)?

every community has somebody in it who does the self-hosting for the community

That’s what (e.g.) Google and Facebook do: Host software for the community.

You can’t extend, modify, or customize hosted software. Self hosting FOSS applications addresses all of those.

But:

rather than expect everyone to self-host, we should be working towards communities offering services to one another

How exactly are “communities offering services” a different thing than “hosted software”?

+1 for NewsBlur. Its filtering is just plain awesome.

Depends on your religion, I guess.

Thank you, that helps me a lot. :-)

Now if it supported org files too…

There is no difference other than a shiny logo and a “contract” that promises you that the random stranger will take care. I promise that I will take care too.

If you still think there is a relevant difference, please tell me. To me, it looks like you don’t fully understand what a password manager stored on other people’s computers does.

A cloud password manager is a database with your passwords hosted on a stranger’s computer. Why wouldn’t I be just as trustworthy as any other stranger on the internet?

My questions are to those of you who self-host, firstly: why?

Would you give me your password database? I promise to encrypt it!

A viable alternative is Guix, which uses Scheme for its scripts and could also use the Hurd kernel instead of Linux, but works the same.

Wait until you see the Lisp community. But yes, Rust is currently in its “why are there even any other languages lol” phase. Just wait.

I understand the reluctance but it feels to me like arguing “we should just stick with COBOL because it works.”

For those depending on COBOL code that does the job and has been doing it just well for a few decades, there are approximately zero good reasons to not stick with it.

Ha, I’ll steal that! “Karen compiler” - quite fitting, to be honest.

Maybe it’s not your profession but a hobby but the point stands.

To be honest, I’ve hardly ever asked myself how I could best please a potential employer with any of my hobbies. But I recognise that you’re probably taking a different approach.

It also expands your employment potential and general usefulness.

I have already mentioned that programming is not everyone’s profession. Not everyone chooses what they do in their unpaid free time primarily based on whether it makes them a more useful person. I think the very phrase ‘my usefulness’ is dangerous.

Are we only worth something as drones?