there is already a political memes channel, put it there

propaganda

when I first heard about MS recall

if ur gonna use ai like this make sure you understand very well the code its giving you

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There still needs to be some way for the devs to pay the server costs and API costs. What I’m suggesting is a way for the user to sell their processing power to them instead of paying an irritating $2 every month. And while the price of cryptocurrencies vary, they don’t vary fast enough to make mining profits (if you sell the coins as you produce them) unpredictable

Its only ‘free money’ if you have an extremely cheap electric bill of use solar, and even then its hard to produce more than a hundred a month. I’m not an idiot.

As long as we’re still burning fossil fuels to create electricity anywhere on earth, wasting any kind of energy is bad.

So your saying that if I use solar power to power a lightbulb that then I forget to turn off, that’s bad?

It doesn’t add any value to anything. It’s expensive (in terms of energy cost) and absolutely, 100% useless.

Uh actually it is not useless, no idea where you got that, there’s tons of things you can buy with it. Other than drugs (which alone provide a use case, but il continue anyway), you can pay for protonmail, buy computer and other stuff. and theres a few lists (https://monerica/ .com/ is one) with a bunch of more stuff you can do with it. (I’m not endorsing anything here, just saying it exists)

crypto just facilitates more trade over the internet, thats how its useful

First and foremost. Most people’s devices are not powerful enough to make any money mining any cryptocurrency.

That depends on the currency. Miners working on something like bitcoin have to compete with massive corporations who construct special ASIC chips that have vastly higher hash rates, making it impossible for anyone who isn’t using such a chip to create any profit. Some currencies, like Monero (XMR) use special hash functions designed is such a way that custom mining hardware for them cant be constructed, and so mining can only happen on cpus. Because of this, its actually possible to make money mining Monero. There’s a benchmark for the hash rates of various cpus, and here’s a link to convert that to projected profits. My PC can calculate 3500 hashes per second, and this translates into USD 0.0045 per hour. That might not seem like much, but if you add together all the money that would be produced by all the players in this game, it would become substantial.

Also a cryptominer is not “free real state” it chugs the computer. The user would have a terrible experience trying to do anything with a cryptominer on the background.

That all depends on how many threads the miner is running. I honestly wouldn’t be able tell if I’m running 2 threads of a Monero miner on my PC unless I look at my task manager - its really not that intensive at that level. Now of course, if it was using the full power of my cpu, I would be a lot hard to do any other task on it, but it doesn’t need to run at full power like that.

And finally, there are many free software out there. Not everything is to be monetized. Some things should just be free. I have done plenty of free things for others to enjoy, it’s not the end of the world, quite the opposite is quite rewarding.

I agree and this game costs something to run, all the server costs and the API costs, and there needs to be some way of paying for that. I suppose it could become free if it was sustained with donations, and in that case having the option to run a miner like this on the client could be a way to add to that, giving the user the option to donate their computing power if they wanted to.

why would the software need to know where its electricity is coming from?

I’ve reread this several times and I still have no idea what you’re trying to say.

we as a species can’t afford to waste massive amounts of electricity on something that literally creates no value.

its the fault of the miner if they’re using non-environmental friendly energy sources. if you don’t wanna create emissions, just use solar power.

literally creates no value.

I don’t really see how. if it can be sold for something of value, it has value. crypto might be useless to you, but to some people out there a single Bitcoin is worth more than 80 thousand dollars, so if you have a few Bitcoin, even though to you they might be useless, you can sell them for money

ik, but it would just be more practical to combine the several steps of mining separately, converting the currency, and then paying for the subscription into a single process. Just the option of this would be nice ngl

The client has no idea where its electricity comes from.

If the client cared to find out, they could just find out. Regardless of mining they’re creating emissions if its not green, so its not even that big of a problem. You could use this same argument to say that using microwaves is bad because the electricity they use isn’t entirely green.

We as humans need to switch to carbon-free energy sources

crypto mining doesn’t need to create carbon. if a miner creates emissions, that’s on them for not using solar

I don’t think its a horrible idea but maybe have an option for purchase, ads, or crypto.

that’s what I’m thinking, but additionally having a option to directly ‘sell’ your computing power should also be an option

But yeah people are going to hate you for this comment 🤣

actually though. I haven’t been on Lemmy for too long but this might be the most downvotes ive gotten on a comment

the randomX hash function Monero uses runs on the CPU, not the gpu

it could just use like 1-2 threads if the game is taking a lot of processing power

edit: if ur gonna mass downvote me, say why 🤦

But would it cost more to pay for the extra electricity or for the product? At least for the electricity you could invest in solar and lower your bill dramatically

society should normalize having crypto-miners in software, like as an official method of monetization that the user consents to

that would actually fix most of our problems, no ads, no subscrption fees

I don’t see a downside to this

edit: if you disagree with me on this, reply. I wanna debate this

its a window manager for Linux

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