• DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe
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    11 months ago

    I don’t really like lootboxes as a concept, but cosmetic lootboxes that they actually let you trade between accounts is certainly one of the better monetization schemes out there.

    I’m sure there’s a better reason to criticize them than teens spending $300 to get a gun with a “leaf pattern” but the reality is they’re the best seller in the market and that’s why people like them.

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      11 months ago

      one of the better monetization schemes out there.

      Let’s not let minor arguments about which is the lesser evil disguise the fact that they are all still evil.

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        11 months ago

        as shitty as any other company

        In this case, the lesser evil is worth pointing out, because they aren’t as shitty as any other company, they’re less so

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      Yeah, the reason why they make so much is because the skins have actual value, they also get 15% on any sale made through their community market. I fucking hate lootboxes, but I also hate skins costing as much as a game. MTX (micro or macro) are always going to be shit, until regulations catch up to all the predatory bullshit we are going to be stuck with one system or another and I’d rather take CS’s.
      I mean I made a profit, if I sold up right now.

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        11 months ago

        Oh fuck off, it’s digital art, they could let people buy the exact skin they want for 50 cents and be done with it, you’re defending them praying on people with a gambling problem.

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          I’m not defending anyone, I’d rather you pay for your game and that is it, how it used to be before the 2010s rolled around. I despise micro/macrotransactions, battle passes, the cosmetic trend, FOMO content, I could rant about it all day and how fucked it is.

          I was just picking my best of the worst. I see you don’t understand how CS skins work, so I’ll try to explain.

          • Anyone can design a skin for a weapon and put this on the Steam Workshop.
          • People then vote on their favourite skins, eventually Valve make a new case and look through skins to add them to the case,
          • Everytime a key for that case is bought the creators get a cut.
          • Everytime a creators skin is bought/sold between players, they get a cut.
          • I can open the case with a key and hope I get a skin I want. Gambling.
          • I can buy the exact skin I want directly off the Steam Market… and be done with it
          • I can trade other players for an exact skin I want.
          • I can sell that skin again on the Steam Market (Valve gets 15% cut, of which some goes to skin creator as prev. mentioned).
          • I can trade that skin to friends/other players, for free or for something they own.

          So I get a lot more freedom with my new cosmetic item vs another game:

          • Skin made in-house.
          • Buy skin from store.
          • Maybe I can refund if they have the option, if they do it’s usually limited.
            Or
          • Buy loot box
          • I now have skin I cannot trade, sell or do anything with but use.

          So yeah, I think Valve have the best of the worst predatory cosmetic systems out there. That’s not defending the practice, I’d MUCH rather the whole cosmetic trend fucked off along with the microtransactions and online systems in singleplayer games and the list could go on…

          (Edit: Lmao at you editing and putting ‘for 50 cent’ in there)

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            11 months ago

            That’s exactly what you’re doing and your doing it even more in this message!

            "I think they have the best of the what worst

            Fuck no, there’s no “best” in this case, pushing people to gamble is pushing people to gamble and that’s it. I used to work in the gambling industry and I’ve seen the damage it can do, it’s fucking disgusting to defend a private business doing it.

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              I agree with you, I hate gambling. It has ruined many lives.

              But that doesn’t mean I cannot discuss the shit as it exists.

              That shouldn’t be too hard to understand. I won’t engage with this further. Have a good one.