Ok I’ll try this again without calling you a c***: saying that X is is not responsible fo Y does not mean that you think that Y is good. In this case, nearly everyone in the US govt (regardless of party affiliation) has supported arms sales to Israel for as long as they’ve held the position. The fact that you think me pointing this out is equivalent to excusing or approving it surprises me, but then many single-issue individuals can get irrationally passionate on those issues, so I shouldn’t have been as surprised as I was I suppose.
Are there more examples of this happening? One event isn’t a very good sample size… “IT DIDN’T WORK GUYS, SEE?!”, I mean, sure… But there are more circumstances and variables and conditions to an election lol.
I mean, as long as it’s a stable ratio, the whole concept in this post falls apart. What are the statistics on left/right leaning presidents throughout history?
It does not, but this happening for one election doesn’t prove an unstable ratio, or rate of change. You have to look at the historical pattern for that.
I don’t think this is the problem of some sort of “phenomenon” of a left party becoming the right party because people are voting for the “lesser evil”. That makes no sense to begin with. If everyone voted for the lesser evil (the left), the lesser evil would not feel the need to take on some evil from the right to please the American people who are voting with their rectums, dropping straight up doo-doo in their ballot boxes. They would be able to just have sane politics. No? Otherwise, why are they doing some evil? And why is the right doing a shit-ton of evil? It’s because they are playing the American people for fools. Exploiting their culture of “protect our land of the fReE” and their “black or white” argumentation and “we vs them”, “good versus evil”, “no gray areas” small brain mentality.
I think you’re misinterpreting and down voting based on that. I’m not defending anything. I just don’t believe this is some kind of theorem. It’s just a problem with politics in America.
And I don’t know enough to make any claims about the history. I’m merely saying we have to look at the history to make any claims. This type of theorem can’t be based on one election. That’s all I’m saying.
You seem to know more about policies and shit that I don’t know about (I’m European). So that’s very insightful, and interesting.
It’s a shame the American people are voting right and/or settling for a right-ified left, instead of just forming a better party with better politics. 🤷♂️
And I don’t know enough to make any claims about the history. I’m merely saying we have to look at the history to make any claims. This type of theorem can’t be based on one election. That’s all I’m saying.
How convenient that you only know one election when I bring up the previous two cycles of the phenomenon I described, but up until this moment, you were certain that this one election was a fluke.
The “lesser evil” won in 2020. We didn’t move back to the left.
Pray tell, how is strengthening unions & workers rights, forgiving student loans, not ‘left’? SMH
Pray tell, how is genocidal fascism “left”? SMH
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Ok I’ll try this again without calling you a c***: saying that X is is not responsible fo Y does not mean that you think that Y is good. In this case, nearly everyone in the US govt (regardless of party affiliation) has supported arms sales to Israel for as long as they’ve held the position. The fact that you think me pointing this out is equivalent to excusing or approving it surprises me, but then many single-issue individuals can get irrationally passionate on those issues, so I shouldn’t have been as surprised as I was I suppose.
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Oh? Provide examples.
Strikebreaking and photo ops didn’t strengthen shit.
Was the only bright spot in his presidency.
Now how was supporting a genocide “left?” I mean, it may be to your left. Maybe you want active participation?
Are there more examples of this happening? One event isn’t a very good sample size… “IT DIDN’T WORK GUYS, SEE?!”, I mean, sure… But there are more circumstances and variables and conditions to an election lol.
How many times do you want to move to the right and not back to the left? How many more times will it take to satisfy you?
I mean, as long as it’s a stable ratio, the whole concept in this post falls apart. What are the statistics on left/right leaning presidents throughout history?
Does the rightward shift that has resulted in the “good” party supporting genocide indicate stability to you?
It does not, but this happening for one election doesn’t prove an unstable ratio, or rate of change. You have to look at the historical pattern for that.
I don’t think this is the problem of some sort of “phenomenon” of a left party becoming the right party because people are voting for the “lesser evil”. That makes no sense to begin with. If everyone voted for the lesser evil (the left), the lesser evil would not feel the need to take on some evil from the right to please the American people who are voting with their rectums, dropping straight up doo-doo in their ballot boxes. They would be able to just have sane politics. No? Otherwise, why are they doing some evil? And why is the right doing a shit-ton of evil? It’s because they are playing the American people for fools. Exploiting their culture of “protect our land of the fReE” and their “black or white” argumentation and “we vs them”, “good versus evil”, “no gray areas” small brain mentality.
For one election?
Which of GWB’s rightward policies did Obama undo? Which of Reagan/Bush’s policies did Clinton undo?
You’re defending a rightward shift that has been going on for decades.
I think you’re misinterpreting and down voting based on that. I’m not defending anything. I just don’t believe this is some kind of theorem. It’s just a problem with politics in America.
And I don’t know enough to make any claims about the history. I’m merely saying we have to look at the history to make any claims. This type of theorem can’t be based on one election. That’s all I’m saying.
You seem to know more about policies and shit that I don’t know about (I’m European). So that’s very insightful, and interesting.
It’s a shame the American people are voting right and/or settling for a right-ified left, instead of just forming a better party with better politics. 🤷♂️
How convenient that you only know one election when I bring up the previous two cycles of the phenomenon I described, but up until this moment, you were certain that this one election was a fluke.