And this is why I think Cowbee is wasting his time trying to engage in good faith with shitlibs; you’ll always just worm your way out and find some excuse, because you’re not actually engaging in good faith, you’ve already decided what you believe, and because you’re supremely arrogant westerners, nothing will ever be as good as your gut feeling for you.
All I ask for is the truth. That’s why I’m called tankie, liberal, Nazi, commie, Trumper, imperialist, hippie. I get bent out of shape when people sling lies and it causes me to become whatever boogeyman they’re turning around in their head.
Did you comb my posts to figure out I’m a liberal? I’m pro India, pro USA, pro China, pro Russia, (making it simple so you can digest it) so it’s weird you got liberal.
To be clear, I have no illusions about mhague changing their mind, I engage for others who see the clear bad faith and contradictory logic to maybe have their minds changed.
Gotta say I really appreciate that you do this. I try to varying degrees when I have the time since like you said it’s usually so lurkers can have their minds changed but it can be time consuming.
It’s really nice when others are jumping in to help and I see you posting great takes a ton.
Thanks! It’s more of an evolution of myself over time, back in my Reddit days years ago I used to be such a debatebro. Now I try to be more chill and focus on education and unity, though when the obviously bad-faith users swarm in I try to call them out on that moreso than trying to focus on education. Sometimes I get great questions that help me reconsider things, sometimes people thank me over DMs or in comments, and either way it’s a great feeling.
Never really looked too deep on Cuba beyond what is obviously forced into my face by American education/media/“news” etc…
So interesting to see a dissenting opinion, I support socialism/communism tho I wish there were better examples of communism working to point to, as if the west didn’t actively work against it all the time lol.
But it is fair to say I think that it is a bit concerning how often it has devolved into essentially dictatorships of one kind or another, but basically since Reagan it’s not like we’ve actually had a honest legislature/election process.
We’ve never really had an “honest” election process. The US has never been a democracy, because it was born of bourgeois revolution[1], and its laws & institutions were crafted by and for the bourgeoisie. The wealthy, white, male, land-owning, largely slave-owning Founding Fathers constructed a bourgeois state with “checks and balances” against the “tyranny of the majority”. It was never meant to represent the majority—the working class—and it never has, despite eventually allowing women and non-whites (at least those not disenfranchised by the carceral system) to vote.
Haha I know, but like to pretend. I literally made the same point to my wife after reading like 10 pages of the Soviet Democracy book I was linked earlier.
We did eventually move further toward more democracy and socialist practices up until the red scare imo, but the foundations were definitely not as rosy as they paint it to be and many people lost their lives to push for progress.
As for democracy in Socialist countries, it’s a lot higher than you’d think, even if there’s work to be done. They aren’t dictatorships and generally never have been, they are usually accused as such for restricting freedom of Capitalists and fascists. I recommend reading Blackshirts and Reds if you want a critical look at the Soviet Union, or Soviet Democracy if you want to learn more about the democratic process. Most Socialist countries follow similar structures.
And this is why I think Cowbee is wasting his time trying to engage in good faith with shitlibs; you’ll always just worm your way out and find some excuse, because you’re not actually engaging in good faith, you’ve already decided what you believe, and because you’re supremely arrogant westerners, nothing will ever be as good as your gut feeling for you.
All I ask for is the truth. That’s why I’m called tankie, liberal, Nazi, commie, Trumper, imperialist, hippie. I get bent out of shape when people sling lies and it causes me to become whatever boogeyman they’re turning around in their head.
Did you comb my posts to figure out I’m a liberal? I’m pro India, pro USA, pro China, pro Russia, (making it simple so you can digest it) so it’s weird you got liberal.
To be clear, I have no illusions about mhague changing their mind, I engage for others who see the clear bad faith and contradictory logic to maybe have their minds changed.
Gotta say I really appreciate that you do this. I try to varying degrees when I have the time since like you said it’s usually so lurkers can have their minds changed but it can be time consuming.
It’s really nice when others are jumping in to help and I see you posting great takes a ton.
Thanks! It’s more of an evolution of myself over time, back in my Reddit days years ago I used to be such a debatebro. Now I try to be more chill and focus on education and unity, though when the obviously bad-faith users swarm in I try to call them out on that moreso than trying to focus on education. Sometimes I get great questions that help me reconsider things, sometimes people thank me over DMs or in comments, and either way it’s a great feeling.
Thanks for the support!
Hi I’m a lurker and I appreciated the responses.
Never really looked too deep on Cuba beyond what is obviously forced into my face by American education/media/“news” etc…
So interesting to see a dissenting opinion, I support socialism/communism tho I wish there were better examples of communism working to point to, as if the west didn’t actively work against it all the time lol.
But it is fair to say I think that it is a bit concerning how often it has devolved into essentially dictatorships of one kind or another, but basically since Reagan it’s not like we’ve actually had a honest legislature/election process.
We’ve never really had an “honest” election process. The US has never been a democracy, because it was born of bourgeois revolution[1], and its laws & institutions were crafted by and for the bourgeoisie. The wealthy, white, male, land-owning, largely slave-owning Founding Fathers constructed a bourgeois state with “checks and balances” against the “tyranny of the majority”. It was never meant to represent the majority—the working class—and it never has, despite eventually allowing women and non-whites (at least those not disenfranchised by the carceral system) to vote.
[Princeton & Northwestern] Study: US is an oligarchy, not a democracy
Haha I know, but like to pretend. I literally made the same point to my wife after reading like 10 pages of the Soviet Democracy book I was linked earlier.
We did eventually move further toward more democracy and socialist practices up until the red scare imo, but the foundations were definitely not as rosy as they paint it to be and many people lost their lives to push for progress.
Appreciate the kind words!
As for democracy in Socialist countries, it’s a lot higher than you’d think, even if there’s work to be done. They aren’t dictatorships and generally never have been, they are usually accused as such for restricting freedom of Capitalists and fascists. I recommend reading Blackshirts and Reds if you want a critical look at the Soviet Union, or Soviet Democracy if you want to learn more about the democratic process. Most Socialist countries follow similar structures.
Started with Soviet Democracy, very interesting so far
Great!