OP is editorializing the headline (“based on real people”) to try to push some agenda here. The fact that 404 Media already has vendetta against sites like CivitAI is bad enough. No, a majority of the models are not porn, not based off of celebrities, and no animals were harmed in the making of this film. Sure, you can point to certain examples of celebrities type models, but most of them are just for concepts not a specific person, and celebrities like to put their pictures out there for anybody to train against. And I do mean anybody can train against these. The hardware requirements are not hard, and besides the Patreon-fueled efforts of certain contributers, it’s just Joe Average people submitting their own LoRAs for concept training.
Let me ask you a simple question: Do you like the current situation with the exploitation of women coming from the real porn industry? Or would you prefer an outlet where there are no men or women (or children) exploited at all?
Let’s be reasonable here … they aren’t running out of options; they’re running out of monetizable options by hosting a centralized repository. Patreon is still an option, as are many others geared toward individual creators.
I shot a fair amount of porn of my then-wife starting in 2010 – predating OnlyFans – and the monetization options were so terrible (she categorically refused to hand over a 40% commission on principle) that we just posted to FetLife for free. Payment processors hold far too much power, essentially being extragovernmental censors
I’m honestly shocked it took this long tbh. It’s obviously a liability, the only question is what site is going to be sued into oblivion first, and a lawsuit would name everyone in the chain, from the site hosting it, to the cloud provider with the data on it, to the card processors. Whoever loses will be “made an example of” too, more than likely shuttering the doors of the site.
Which would just force the efforts underground, where there’s NO curation or moderation. People passing out databases of LoRAs on torrent sites, IRC, or underground bulletin boards. Or they’ll just host in a different county that isn’t the US.
Good! Sounds like they’re based on celebs, that stuff shouldn’t be accepted.
can anyone speak to why payment processors care about AI porn at all? With the duopoly of PayPal and Stripe, I’m not totally clear why the payment processors think that AI Porn will impact their bottom line in the slightest. If people take issue with the payment processors’ implicit approval of these practices, what are they gonna do? It’s not like there are any viable alternatives.
They dont wanna be sued. CC companies hate having any sex work or porn paid for with their systems. Puritan shit, sex work hate, and throwing the baby out with the bathwater trying to avoid being a processor for CSAM which does NOT just simply go hand in hand for sex work or porn but they think it dows.
They might actually just care about the moral issues involved (or at least be worried enough about pushback to fake it).
They’re going to make a river of money regardless, and so maybe it’s not worth taking a reputational hit or risking some kind of legislation, just to preserve the 0.00000001% of their revenue stream that is deepfake porn based.
They might actually just care about the moral issues involved
They give zero shits about moral issues. Corporations have no morals. Banks have even less than no morals.
That makes sense actually. I’m guessing they have been sued for similar stuff in the past and as you said, the small revenue stream is not worth the cost in lawsuits.
