OP doesn’t say that an older system was better - especially not some super-specific one. Just that it’s NOT the only possible system and likely not the best there can be.
I’m arguing that if you lived in any of the previous systems, you would have dreamt to live in today’s Capitalism because it is the first system that produced a world where a large portion of humanity lived a safe and happy life.
It doesn’t mean that Capitalism is perfect. It’s just the best system so far.
Our current system is also going to consume itself and the entire planet in a couple generations. So sure, QOL for the select few who live in the Imperial core have increased massively. But it’s completely unsustainable.
Given that your account is 6 days old, and you’re just stirring up an argument by being deliberately obtuse and engaging in bad faith, I’m going to assume you’re a ban evasion account and you already know perfectly well that OP is a communist (and so are most of the people replying to you) but you’ve just decided to go about this conversation in the most annoying way possible.
Given that your account is 6 days old, and you’re just stirring up an argument by being deliberately obtuse and engaging in bad faith, I’m going to assume you’re a ban evasion account
You’d be wrong, but I’m not going to argue. In this whole thread I’ve read enough granitic opinion not open to debate.
The “not open to debate” part is what gets me. Dude, if you brought me something I hadn’t heard before, I’d have a much more charitable conversation. But as they’re talking right now it’s just an array of thought terminating cliches that I used to hear repeatedly on reddit and when talking with older family members.
OP doesn’t say that an older system was better - especially not some super-specific one. Just that it’s NOT the only possible system and likely not the best there can be.
So I’m not sure who exactly you’re arguing with.
I’m arguing that if you lived in any of the previous systems, you would have dreamt to live in today’s Capitalism because it is the first system that produced a world where a large portion of humanity lived a safe and happy life.
It doesn’t mean that Capitalism is perfect. It’s just the best system so far.
Waiting for OP to tell us what should come next.
Socialism obviously
Our current system is also going to consume itself and the entire planet in a couple generations. So sure, QOL for the select few who live in the Imperial core have increased massively. But it’s completely unsustainable.
Probably a large portion of the world would agree on that. A change, especially for the environment, is inevitable.
Given that your account is 6 days old, and you’re just stirring up an argument by being deliberately obtuse and engaging in bad faith, I’m going to assume you’re a ban evasion account and you already know perfectly well that OP is a communist (and so are most of the people replying to you) but you’ve just decided to go about this conversation in the most annoying way possible.
You’d be wrong, but I’m not going to argue. In this whole thread I’ve read enough granitic opinion not open to debate.
Bye!
The “not open to debate” part is what gets me. Dude, if you brought me something I hadn’t heard before, I’d have a much more charitable conversation. But as they’re talking right now it’s just an array of thought terminating cliches that I used to hear repeatedly on reddit and when talking with older family members.
Correlation != Causation
As others have pointed out we have better lives today because of scientific and technological progress not because of capitalism.
Progress that did not happen at the same rate in non-capitalistic societies.
You’re right, USSR managed to accomplish an equivalent of a century of progress under capitalism in the west in a couple of decades.