Editor’s Note: Ex-Labour Party MPs Jeremy Corbyn and Zarah Sultana have announced that a new left-wing party will soon be founded in Britain. Corbyn, who was previously the leader of the Labour Party, said, “For too long, people have been denied a real political choice – not anymore.
Wait until they find out what he thinks of Russia Vs Ukraine.
Why can’t we have a normal party?
First of all I disagree with Corbyn’s position on Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.
Corbyn is ideologically anti-war, and has a long history of that. He is wrong on this war but his position is at least respectable.
On the other hand, people are voting Farage in who is actively colluding with Russia. So 🤷
I’m just not sure why they’re giving what is basically two independent MPs so much airtime when the Green party is right there, already opposes Russia and Israel, and dislikes the online safety bill.
I’m sick of voting so the wrong lizard doesn’t get in. It clearly still means being ruled by lizards. Our voting system is unfit for purpose, as Farage will prove as he kicks out the foreigns, sells the NHS and brings back smoking in pubs, on like 25% of the vote.
Yes, Green is a good choice too. They also have policies I disagree with, but there’s never going to be a perfect party. I’d like if they get more attention too but that’s just how the media works. People like seeing a shiny new party coming in to disrupt the system, so that’s what the media will report on.
Also I heavily disagree with your classification of Corbyn as a lizard. Come on now, you can disagree with his stances but he’s not a lizard. Just listen to what his constituents say about him.
I was talking more about Labour in order to get the Tories out or keep Farage out.
The Corbyn Party realistically hasn’t got a prayer, he’s about as popular with the general public as a fart in a spacesuit, and I suspect the media is simply bigging him up to split the vote. He also vocally wanted to scrap the nuclear deterrent, which would still be ringing in people’s ears as Russia marched into Ukraine. If he starts picking up any real steam, that will be plastered front and centre of any campaign against him.
Any good sources there? Never hear anything about the greens and I voted for them. I assume they are being generally sensible so the media refuses to report on it because people might get ideas.
The Green Party wants to significantly liberalise immigration to the UK. This is at a time when 95% of the Kingdom wants lower immigration. For this reason (and many more), the Greens are currently polling at 9%. The reason they don’t get much airtime is because their policies are unpopular and people don’t like them.
It’s almost as if representative democracy is a shit idea, designed to empower populists and demagogues.
It’s far from perfect but it’s better than everything else humanity has attempted.
We can do better.
I’m not so sure. Humans are incredibly diverse by nature. We have evolved to inhabit every ecological niche in existence, and then we invented many more. We can’t get a population to agree that the sky is blue or that water is wet or the Earth is round or that vaccines are safe. There is always at least 10% who disagree on any subject. When you map each 10% group as a Venn diagram, it covers everyone in the population on some issue, big or small. In terms of governance, this means that any direction chosen will be opposed by a relatively large minority. There are only two options here and it is absolutely binary: majority rule, or minority rule. History has taught us that minority rule is horrific. It tends to create massive inequality, death, suffering, and eventually revolution. Democracy is the solution presented for majority rule, and I am intimately aware of the phrase “tyranny by the majority.” In fact I would categorise democracy as exactly that. Despite that, it is better than the alternatives.
So I think we are evolutionarily bound to a best case scenario in which the majority chooses a generally agreed upon direction, while a loud minority gets really angry. Democracy ensures that that loud minority doesn’t get violent because they’re given a seat at the table and a voice, even if they don’t get their way this time. I see no other successful governance models from the real world. Everything “better” is theoretical.
Democracy is fine. We don’t have it.
Representative Democracy (where you just pick somebody who belongs to a party you more or less align with, although invariably not on everything) is bad. It’s barely democracy at all.
Direct democracy is better. That way we could be pro-Ukraine, pro-Palestine, pro-NHS, pro-privacy and pro-nuclear. We wouldn’t have to pick which one to sacrifice.
The greens have shot themselves in the foot with my by strongly opposing nuclear power. It is not a tenable stance to take in a green economy. In my opinion anyway.