Because the opinion pieces were all winging about how Harris lost because she didn’t go on enough podcasts
I mean that part is definitely true. The Democratic campaign machine is a big collection of boomer shit, of which this was one example. I thought that was generally agreed upon on Lemmy?
, and/or because she hadn’t been mean enough to trans people.
Fuckin’ what? Who said that? What are some of these opinion pieces?
at best his milk toast careerism will knee cap the congressional battles that happen at the same time
Sounds like it’s doing literally 100% the exact opposite, because he unlike almost all of the Democratic party is actually trying to fight for proper representation in congress. Right? Or did we read different articles or something?
“The Democrats have to stop pandering to the far left,” Rep. Tom Suozzi, D-N.Y., told The New York Times on Wednesday. “I don’t want to discriminate against anybody, but I don’t think biological boys should be playing in girls’ sports.”
Rep. Seth Moulton, D-Mass., shared a similar view, telling the Times on Thursday: “Democrats spend way too much time trying not to offend anyone rather than being brutally honest about the challenges many Americans face. I have two little girls. I don’t want them getting run over on a playing field by a male or formerly male athlete, but as a Democrat, I’m supposed to be afraid to say that.”
Okay, so it wasn’t “all” opinion pieces, it was no opinion pieces. Glad we got that squared away. There is an NBC News article, and a couple of clueless reps apparently. Hooray. To me this piece sounds like a pretty good instance of the galaxy-brain type of propaganda that can successfully turn everyone against the Democrats, whether you are pro-trans or anti-trans, which is generally a pretty good accomplishment when you can swing it.
There is an NBC News article, and a couple of clueless reps apparently. Hooray.
They’re literally Congresspersons speaking in interviews about the election, blaming (acceptance of) trans people for Harris’ loss. Stop trying to minimize this.
To me this piece sounds like a pretty good instance of the galaxy-brain type of propaganda that can successfully turn everyone against the Democrats
Stop pretending that anyone here is arguing to abandon Democrats. We’re arguing that the party establishment is at least very willing to accept anti-trans positions, and when you’re talking about potential future presidential candidates who are doing it, it’s both fair and important to call it out.
If you don’t care whether our next President is on record saying trans people shouldn’t be treated as the gender they identify with as long as they’re a Democrat, just say it. But don’t pretend that “oh, no one in the Democratic Party thinks this stuff (including the guy who went on a right-wing podcast and said it)”.
Because the opinion pieces were all winging about how Harris lost because … she hadn’t been mean enough to trans people.
Now that we’ve solidly established that I was 100% in the right to disagree with this, you’ve done a few rhetorical backflips around to where you’re accusing me of a bunch of things I never said. You’ve also actually managed to backflip your way around to where because I posted a negative story about Gavin Newsom, I must not care about negative things about Gavin Newsom and I must think he’s our next president.
I changed my mind: You might be the galaxy brain propaganda. It’s honestly pretty impressive. Well done! If you want to engage with anything I actually said, you’re welcome to.
Yeah. I’m especially suspicious of the big influx of posts that are all of a sudden super-concerned about his progressive credentials
I must not care about negative things about Gavin Newsom
Which is it? Or are only the articles that you post not part of the “influx”?
That aside, if you’re telling me that you are in fact critical of Newsom’s as-yet ineffectual maneuvering and also think it’s just cynical politicking at the expense of trans people and immigrants to position himself for a presidential run, I am thrilled, because that is not the vibe I got from your comments.
I mean that part is definitely true. The Democratic campaign machine is a big collection of boomer shit, of which this was one example. I thought that was generally agreed upon on Lemmy?
Fuckin’ what? Who said that? What are some of these opinion pieces?
Sounds like it’s doing literally 100% the exact opposite, because he unlike almost all of the Democratic party is actually trying to fight for proper representation in congress. Right? Or did we read different articles or something?
It’s not opinion pieces, it’s what some Dem strategists and even Reps said after the loss, as they attempted to push rightwards as usual.
Okay, so it wasn’t “all” opinion pieces, it was no opinion pieces. Glad we got that squared away. There is an NBC News article, and a couple of clueless reps apparently. Hooray. To me this piece sounds like a pretty good instance of the galaxy-brain type of propaganda that can successfully turn everyone against the Democrats, whether you are pro-trans or anti-trans, which is generally a pretty good accomplishment when you can swing it.
They’re literally Congresspersons speaking in interviews about the election, blaming (acceptance of) trans people for Harris’ loss. Stop trying to minimize this.
Stop pretending that anyone here is arguing to abandon Democrats. We’re arguing that the party establishment is at least very willing to accept anti-trans positions, and when you’re talking about potential future presidential candidates who are doing it, it’s both fair and important to call it out.
If you don’t care whether our next President is on record saying trans people shouldn’t be treated as the gender they identify with as long as they’re a Democrat, just say it. But don’t pretend that “oh, no one in the Democratic Party thinks this stuff (including the guy who went on a right-wing podcast and said it)”.
So I disagreed with this:
Now that we’ve solidly established that I was 100% in the right to disagree with this, you’ve done a few rhetorical backflips around to where you’re accusing me of a bunch of things I never said. You’ve also actually managed to backflip your way around to where because I posted a negative story about Gavin Newsom, I must not care about negative things about Gavin Newsom and I must think he’s our next president.
I changed my mind: You might be the galaxy brain propaganda. It’s honestly pretty impressive. Well done! If you want to engage with anything I actually said, you’re welcome to.
Which is it? Or are only the articles that you post not part of the “influx”?
That aside, if you’re telling me that you are in fact critical of Newsom’s as-yet ineffectual maneuvering and also think it’s just cynical politicking at the expense of trans people and immigrants to position himself for a presidential run, I am thrilled, because that is not the vibe I got from your comments.
You’re trying to make sense of a comment with rampant errors topped by “milk toast.”
It’s overall milquetoast writing.
Haha, I was actually going to make fun of the “milk toast” but I thought there were some more substantive issues.