having things that work in the short and medium term to pave the way make it a lot easier to reach the long term solutions.
Ketogenic eating works today, right now, for individuals
let’s say such a programme were to work for my wife - how long would that take? Would it be fast enough to beat menopause? She’s 38 now and this solution improved her quality of life dramatically and is helping us not repeat the mistakes of her parents with our own child.
Depends how strict they can be, 1 to 2 kg per month is normal, women tend to hit a plateau earlier on ketogenic eating, where their body goes through a period of recomposition where the weight doesn’t reduce, but the fat is still being burned. So it’s important to evaluate these interventions not just by overall weight, but waistline, or body composition scanners if you have access to one
We’re not looking for a quick fix, but a leg up. If we can improve people’s perceptions of themselves it’s a lot easier to get buy in for further lifestyle improvements. If one is already dramatically overweight it’s much easier to be defeatist!
Completely agree. The important thing is to provide people an optimistic path. I’m a big fan of programs like virta because they provide lots of different modalities to meet people where they get the most motivation and feedback to stay on track.
I have looked at a few studies, and ketogenic diets outperform the GLP-1 drugs in total weight loss, and in muscle retention in every study I’ve looked at.
And thank you for supporting my point of view and experiences.
I’m with you on the keto diet.
I am not overweight, never have been, and have been on the Keto Diet for the past 20 years.
My cholesterol level is below normal, yet 70% of my 1500 daily calories come from quality fats; butter, cheese, double cream, lard, avacado oil, olive oil, home made mayonnaise, fats, fats, fats.
Our brains love fat, our brains are made of 80% fat.
I dont eat anthing that grows under the ground. I dont eat anything that has been near a factory.
But isnt fat bad for us? Absolutelty not! We have been lied to by successive governments and the food industry lobbyists and shills.
Look at breakfast cereals, especially the ones advertised at children, with the little toys inside the box, all covered in sugar and sweetness. Biscuits, crisps, tinned sauces, canned drinks, diet drinks. Who in their right mind eats and drinks that shite, its fucking disgusting! None of it is natural.
I came to the conclusion that those poeples, living in the northern hemisphere, naturally live on a keto diet. There are no potato’s, carrots, fruit berries are seasonal. but there is plenty of meat and fat.
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I came to the Keto diet when I worked with a client who had terminal cancer. she died after six months. I didnt know anything about cancer, so being a committed therapist, I did my homework and read lots of research.
what astonished me was that cancer lives and feeds on sugars. No sugars, no cancers.
I have seen cancers increase in my lifetime, So we must ask what has changed in the human experience in the past 50-100 years.
It is food, It is our diet. An excess of carbohydrates, carbohydates are a sugars, carbohydrates equal obesity.
Fast food shite shops on every high street, selling shite food: crackdonalds, Burgerkin, piss-on-a-pizza, ken-fucky-fucked-a-chicken, costa-a-fortune coffee, sub-standard-way.
I dont eat take away food of any kind. I love traditional Indian curry’s, but only eat them when they are home cooked by an Indian, Sikh or Hindu it doesnt matter.
The sauces you get in an indian curry from a take away comes from a 25KG barrel. the same sauce goes in every curry they sell. Proper healthy shite.
I asked my mum before she died, did she see many obese people before and after WW2, she said no-one was overweight, she also told me that during the war, The government promoted and told families to feed fat and fats to their children.
Even my nan had a large bowl of dripping in her fridge, Dripping on toast.
For me, the keto diet is a cure all for; obesity, diabetes, Epilepsy, to name a few.
Doctors have started to recommend the ketogenic diet for children with epilepsy, diabetes and obesity with astounding results.
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There is a great TV documentary called “The Magic Pill” which is still available on youtube.
Sorry, didn’t mean any offense.
Ketogenic eating works today, right now, for individuals
Depends how strict they can be, 1 to 2 kg per month is normal, women tend to hit a plateau earlier on ketogenic eating, where their body goes through a period of recomposition where the weight doesn’t reduce, but the fat is still being burned. So it’s important to evaluate these interventions not just by overall weight, but waistline, or body composition scanners if you have access to one
Completely agree. The important thing is to provide people an optimistic path. I’m a big fan of programs like virta because they provide lots of different modalities to meet people where they get the most motivation and feedback to stay on track.
I have looked at a few studies, and ketogenic diets outperform the GLP-1 drugs in total weight loss, and in muscle retention in every study I’ve looked at.
And thank you for supporting my point of view and experiences.
I’m with you on the keto diet.
I am not overweight, never have been, and have been on the Keto Diet for the past 20 years.
My cholesterol level is below normal, yet 70% of my 1500 daily calories come from quality fats; butter, cheese, double cream, lard, avacado oil, olive oil, home made mayonnaise, fats, fats, fats.
Our brains love fat, our brains are made of 80% fat.
I dont eat anthing that grows under the ground. I dont eat anything that has been near a factory.
But isnt fat bad for us? Absolutelty not! We have been lied to by successive governments and the food industry lobbyists and shills.
Look at breakfast cereals, especially the ones advertised at children, with the little toys inside the box, all covered in sugar and sweetness. Biscuits, crisps, tinned sauces, canned drinks, diet drinks. Who in their right mind eats and drinks that shite, its fucking disgusting! None of it is natural.
I came to the conclusion that those poeples, living in the northern hemisphere, naturally live on a keto diet. There are no potato’s, carrots, fruit berries are seasonal. but there is plenty of meat and fat.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I came to the Keto diet when I worked with a client who had terminal cancer. she died after six months. I didnt know anything about cancer, so being a committed therapist, I did my homework and read lots of research.
what astonished me was that cancer lives and feeds on sugars. No sugars, no cancers.
I have seen cancers increase in my lifetime, So we must ask what has changed in the human experience in the past 50-100 years.
It is food, It is our diet. An excess of carbohydrates, carbohydates are a sugars, carbohydrates equal obesity.
Fast food shite shops on every high street, selling shite food: crackdonalds, Burgerkin, piss-on-a-pizza, ken-fucky-fucked-a-chicken, costa-a-fortune coffee, sub-standard-way.
I dont eat take away food of any kind. I love traditional Indian curry’s, but only eat them when they are home cooked by an Indian, Sikh or Hindu it doesnt matter.
The sauces you get in an indian curry from a take away comes from a 25KG barrel. the same sauce goes in every curry they sell. Proper healthy shite.
I asked my mum before she died, did she see many obese people before and after WW2, she said no-one was overweight, she also told me that during the war, The government promoted and told families to feed fat and fats to their children.
Even my nan had a large bowl of dripping in her fridge, Dripping on toast.
For me, the keto diet is a cure all for; obesity, diabetes, Epilepsy, to name a few.
Doctors have started to recommend the ketogenic diet for children with epilepsy, diabetes and obesity with astounding results.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
There is a great TV documentary called “The Magic Pill” which is still available on youtube.
here is link to it. sorry I dont do youtube;
https://peteevans.com/videos/the-magic-pill/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6035294/
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A random selection of research, is amazing.
The impact of a ketogenic diet on weight loss, metabolism, body composition and quality of life
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2589004224025161
Effect of weight-maintaining ketogenic diet on glycemic control and insulin sensitivity in obese T2D subjects
https://drc.bmj.com/content/12/5/e004199
Drug resistant epilepsy and ketogenic diet: A narrative review of mechanisms of action
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2590139724000590
Wow, that’s quite the post, you might be interested in the !ketogenic@discuss.online community
I’ll take a look at some of the resources you linked in this post. Everything you said makes sense to me
Thanks jet
Nice to find like minded people
I am new to lemmy so still learning
Lemmy is mostly wholesome, but there are some really rough personalities here too
Communities that might be interesting to you
thanks for the info Jet
I shall have a look at those