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bubblybubbles@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 1 day ago

Average lib take when communism is involved

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Average lib take when communism is involved

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bubblybubbles@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 1 day ago
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    That thought terminating cliche doesn’t even make sense in this context

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        Are you just going down a list of rote lines?

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            You’re not even trying to have a conversation though, for that you’d actually have to read what people say, rather than just going down the list of pre-prepared thought terminating cliches.

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                What’s the next rote line on your list?

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                    Keep going

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                Most Marxists do not “love” Stalin. We understand his role as the first long-term leader of the world’s first long-term socialist state, appreciate his synthesizing of Marxism and Leninism into Marxism-Leninism, and uphold him as a genuine Marxist that, while not free from sin, absolutely has been systematically demonized by the west in a manner that distorts reality and erases the far worse nature of his contemporaries, such as Churchill. Mao famously gave him a final “score” of 70% good, 30% bad, a “score” that is generally orbited around by the various Marxist-Leninist orgs worldwide.

                Demystifying Stalin

                I know that after my death a pile of rubbish will be heaped on my grave, but the wind of History will sooner or later sweep it away without mercy.

                • J. V. Stalin
                1. Nia Frome’s “Tankies”

                [8 min]

                1. W. E. B Dubois’ On Stalin

                [6 min]

                1. Domenico Losurdo’s Primitive Thinking and Stalin as Scapegoat

                [30 min]

                1. Domenico Losurdo’s Stalin and Stalinism in History

                [16 min]

                1. J. V. Stalin interviewed by H. G. Wells

                [42 min]

                1. J. V. Stalin interviewed by Emil Ludwig

                [38 min]

                1. J. V. Stalin interviewed by Roy Howard

                [9 min]

                1. Domenico Losurdo’s Stalin: The History and Critique of a Black Legend

                [5 hr 51 min]

                1. Ludo Martens’ Another View of Stalin

                [5 hr 25 min]

                1. Anna Louise Strong’s This Soviet World

                Stalin's Major Theoretical Contributions to Marxism

                I have come to communism because of daddy Stalin and nobody must come and tell me that I mustn’t read Stalin. I read him when it was very bad to read him. That was another time. And because I’m not very bright, and a hard-headed person, I keep on reading him. Especially in this new period, now that it is worse to read him. Then, as well as now, I still find a Seri of things that are very good.

                • Che Guevara
                1. Economic Problems of Socialism in the USSR

                2. Dialectical and Historical Materialism

                3. History of the CPSU (B)

                4. The Foundations of Leninism

                5. Marxism and the National Question

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                    Rejecting any and all comparative analysis in favor of a simplistic “countries bad” stance is just a willing desire to cede decisionmaking to the status quo, recusing yourself of any genuine input or responsibility. The truth is that Churchill, Jefferson, and Washington are all whitewashed by bourgeois historians despite being far worse than Stalin and Mao.

                    I’ll defend good actions and condemn bad ones. Defeating the Nazis? Very good. Doubling life expectancies? Very good. Tripling literacy rates, providing free, high quality healthcare, affordable housing, rapid economic development? Very good. Re-criminalizing homosexuality? Very bad.

                    It’s incredibly easy to just say “everything is bad and I support nothing,” but that just cedes all input to others.

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        it’s a surprise anyone could take in any sort of information with a mind that tightly closed.

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