• Sergio@piefed.social
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    I think you’re taking heat a little bit unfairly. This is, after all, the MILDLY infuriating community, and it can be a hassle when something stops working for you, even if it’s perfectly reasonable for it to happen.

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      I think you’re taking heat a little bit unfairly.

      Most of it seems to come from one user who seems to hate me in particular. :D But it’s fun to start a controversial topic once in a while. At least I’m not getting banned for having a different opinion (which would’ve definitely happened on Reddit).

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    Works fine for me, Firefox and Ublock Origin, DNS by PiHole. I think there’s something on your machine causing this.

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      It’s nice but I need something simple for cropping images in a certain aspect ratio/resolution and then exporting it to webp. I think Krita isn’t the right tool for that.

      Edit: Alright, I deserve the downvotes. I didn’t mention I need to do this in batch for multiple images.

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        something simple for cropping images in a certain aspect ratio/resolution and then exporting it to webp

        Gimp 3 is awesome, free, etc

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        It’s nice but I need something simple for cropping images in a certain aspect ratio/resolution and then exporting it to webp. I think Krita isn’t the right tool for that.

        If you have trouble cropping and exporting under Krita, maybe using computers isn’t the right thing for you. It’s literally a single mouse click on this icon:

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          maybe using computers isn’t the right thing for you

          Sir, this isn’t Reddit. Please calm down. :)
          And now tell me how to batch-crop and export multiple images as .webp, if it’s doable in Krita. Because I don’t know how.

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            Yeah krita definitely isn’t the right tool for bulk jobs. You might want to look into learning to use imagemagick’s command line tools, they’re pretty much the gold standard for bulk image tasks

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              If something was previously the right tool for the job, then, despite no apparent changes in the behavior of the user, is intentionally broken by the creator of the tool and is no longer suitable - that is absolutely, 100% worth complaining about.

              IMHO.

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                that is absolutely, 100% worth complaining about.

                So commercial-grade batch processing of images on other people’s infrastructure and dodging any form of compensation is 100% worth complaining about? OK.

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                Thank you, that’s my opinion as well. I know developers need to put food on the table, but then they should at least be honest about that. Going into the uBlock Github and trolling people there while claiming you “always supported ad blockers” isn’t the right way and I am not financially supporting developers who act like this.

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                  I am not financially supporting developers who act like this.

                  Are you financially supporting literally any developers at all? You made it clear you were not paying for a Photopea subscription and were using uBO, so there’s not a carrot or a stick here for the maintainer of Photopea (I guess there’s a very tiny carrot for losing you as a user in that you’re not using their resources). I mean that as a genuine question, by the way:

                  • What software that you use have you paid for and/or donated to?
                  • Was it because you had to, or because you felt strongly that they deserved compensation for their work?
                  • Did you ever at any point stop giving said software maintainer money when you felt they were no longer acting in a way that comports with your standards?
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                  I am not financially supporting developers who act like this.

                  You were not financially supporting the developers before either. You admitted that you do frequent batch processing of many images on their infrastructure. If anything, losing you as a user is saving them money.

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              I’m not the one getting nervous at looking at other alternatives.

              I am not nervous, I am mildly infuriated. There are other tools and I will learn them.

              Use the right tool for the job

              imagemagick certainly isn’t the right tool for batch-cropping, unless the cropped area is always in the same place (I need a visual representation before cropping and a commandline tool doesn’t cut it here). But thank you for at least trying to suggest an actual solution instead of patronizing me.

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                I am mildly infuriated.

                Calm down.

                I need a visual representation before cropping

                Then pay. You’re using a commercial service to do commercial-grade tasks. Stop to dodge compensation.

  • katy ✨@piefed.blahaj.zone
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    are you sure it’s not a specific ublock filter or something? i accessed it in librewolf with the default ublock origin settings and it looked fine.

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    I am totally supporting developers wanting to make money with their product.

    But the developer of Photopea has basically built a product for people who want to get rid of Adobe’s stupid subscription model and now he tries to force them to pay for his own subscription by breaking the application. That really doesn’t sit right with me.

    Why would I need to pay 8€/month for image editing features that run in my browser?

    It also doesn’t help that he went on Github and complained to the developers of uBlock Origin, replying with troll answers like “How can I help you?” but not wanting to accept any other answer than them allowing him to serve ads.

    This guy can get rekt, in my humble opinion. I did like the product before this change, though. Does anyone know of similar image editors out there that can batch-crop images in a certain aspect ratio/resolution and then export them to webp? (GIMP is terrible, sorry 🥹)

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      GIMP isn’t terrible. You’re just used to doing things a certain way and GIMP does it differently.

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        That’s true, I was working with Photoshop for many years and it’s hard to unlearn that.
        Maybe I’ll give it another chance.

        What’s mildly infuriating is that Photopea makes this so easy and now I need to adjust my workflow again. Why do so many devs out there need to enshittify their product after a few years? :(

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              Blame Adobe for setting the norm. If you don’t want to pay a sub or see ads or anything then there are options.

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                Absolutely. 😃 Someone even went through my recent unrelated comments in other communities and downvoted each one. I didn’t think blocking some ads would make people this mad!

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      I don’t really understand why you’re using ad-supported proprietary software that you’ve never paid a dime for (or given a dime to, since you use uBO), claiming that you don’t use GIMP or Krita instead because the former “is terrible” and the latter isn’t meant for cropping (a trivial, fundamental feature of the software), and then acting entitled to use the Photopea author’s own personal work with zero compensation. So you have free alternatives (as in beer and as in freedom), refuse to do even the bare minimum to learn how to use them, and then go full “you took my only food; now I’m gonna starve” when Photopea’s author stops you from using their own site/web app for free that they run and maintain at their own expense.

      If anything, you seem entitled and willfully ignorant, and I say that from the perspective of someone who resents digital advertising and proprietary software.

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        then acting entitled to use the Photopea author’s own personal work with zero compensation.

        Running batch tasks on the Photopea author’s own infrastructure because Photopea is a website. Lichtmetzger wrote in a reply that he’s not using Photopea to edit a photo once in a while and now he’s bummed out (I would kinda understand that) but that he’s actually processing a big number of images on someone else’s resources.

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          The images get processed in your own browser. The only infrastructure I’m using is the bit of Javascript and HTML I am loading when accessing the site, the rest is handled by my own machine.

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            The only infrastructure I’m using is the bit of Javascript and HTML

            If Photopea was so simple, you could just download the necessary parts and self-host.

            This won’t work because there is actual server-side code running, meaning you’re hogging someone else’s resources to do your commercial-grade tasks.

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              This won’t work because there is actual server-side code running

              That is not true! You can figure that out for yourself - open up the site, disconnect your internet and resize/crop some images. It will do it just fine, because all of that code runs in your own browser.

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        If anything, you seem entitled and willfully ignorant

        I understand why people might think that. As I’ve said in another comment, it’s the attitude of the developer that mildly infuriates me. I am not against paying money for a good product and I would’ve even paid the subscription, if 1. it wasn’t so high (96€/year for a tool processing images in your own browser) and 2. he wasn’t such a dick on Github to people.

        I know developers need to put food on the table, but then they should at least be honest about that. Going into the uBlock Github and trolling people there while claiming you “always supported ad blockers” isn’t the right way and I am not financially supporting developers who act like this.

        Also, some people don’t seem to grasp that I’m not actually processing images for free on the developers’ infrastructure. The image processing is done via Javascript on my own machine. So all I’m doing is loading the website initially, it’s not like I’m taking money out of the devs’ pocket by blocking his ads. Added to that, the site worked fine for many years, why do you need to put an aggressive Adblock detection in now? It’s a cat and mouse game against uBlock and he must know he will never win this game.

        Of course, it’s his own tool and he can do whatever he wants with it, but it’s still shitty to do it.

        After all, you’re right, I’ve decided to give tools like GIMP another chance. The problem for me is that I used Photoshop for many years (that’s what I learned when I was attending art school, blame the system) and moving away to another tool like GIMP is a lot of work, because it works very differently. I learned there are plugins for easing the transition and I’ll find another tool.

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      GIMP is terrible, sorry

      Its actually not, but if you really hate the interface then try photogimp

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          there are definitely problems.

          Of course there are but the claim was that Lichtmetzger only needs to crop a bunch of images and Gimp is 100% capable of that and I say that as someone who can’t stand Gimp any longer and moved to Krita and others.

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      He’s not forcing you into a subscription model, he wants you to either allow ads or go to a subscription model.

      You don’t need to pay 8 Euro a month, you just need to allow the ads.

      It’s not broken to prevent ad blockers, we all got used to a system that wasn’t sustainable, and now we’re seeing what is actually required for sites and apps to survive.

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        I wouldn’t mind paying a few cents, but 8€ is way more than what he could possibly get out of the ads.

        I wish a system like Flattr or even BAT could take off. Paying a few dollars a month to not get ads anywhere in a sustainable way seems like the way to go.

        (Note: I seem to remember shady stuff about the BAT token but I do not know the details. Don’t incendiate me on that).

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    What I am hearing is that you don’t feel like my man should receive any monetary support for a slick and convenient web application he invested a ton of time into. Not something I would gripe about online, but you do you.

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      Nobody wants random crap, trackers, spyware, and other garbage.

      If photpea wanted to curate their ads, it might be different. Maybe they could even have an artists gallery or subscription to advertise for their heavy users.

      But nobody in their right mind is going to stop blocking the major ad domians. Because that would just be stupid.

      That said: I don’t even use photopea, they don’t have anything I want or need that I can’t just install locally anyways, which also is free and guess what No ads.

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      I am not paying another high subscription (yes, 96€/year is high for some people) for a tool that processes images locally, no.

      That attitude has worked out fine in my life so far.

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        I am not paying another high subscription (yes, 96€/year is high for some people) for a tool that processes images locally, no.

        Then self-host a tool you need for your commercial-grade tasks.

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          commercial-grade

          Today I’ve learned that cropping five images in a row is “commercial-grade”. Sure…

          Self-hosting is a good idea, though, if I can find some useful software in that field. See, despite all of the trolling you are actually giving me good advice. I don’t know if it’s intentional, but thanks nonetheless.

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            Today I’ve learned that cropping five images in a row is “commercial-grade”. Sure…

            Today I’ve learned that you cannot use Krita to crop manually because you’re cropping waaay to many images and absolutely need batch processing but you also cannot self-host anything because “it’s only 5 images, man”.

            Self-hosting is a good idea, though, if I can find some useful software in that field.

            • *types bulk image crop site:github.com into search engine*
            • *finds a bunch*

            Huh…

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    Oh damn, I just used it a couple of days ago. I’ll check later this week if I am still able to use it with uBO.

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    “Something is breaking Photopea” ??? Yeah it’s yourselves.

    Not sure if this lie is allowed under the EU DSA law.