• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    That was George Orwell’s view, but it’s wrong. Historically, socialist states have been dramatically effective at raising up standards of living, and it’s because the working class is quite well aware of its own interests and how to run society. You don’t need everyone to specialize in everything, that’s why political education and education in general are so valued in socialist countries.

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          You’re calling USSR or PRC “socialist”? WTF is this? A joke? I thought we’re having a serious conversation here.

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            Yes, both the USSR and PRC are typical examples of socialism. Public ownership is the principle aspect of both the former USSR’s economy and the PRC’s economy, same with Cuba, Vietnam, etc. Not sure what you’re getting at.

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              LOL, excellent jokes all around!

              Yes, both the USSR and PRC are typical examples of socialism

              Both USSR and PRC are prime examples of bog-standard totalitarian dictatorships. I have no clue where you’re getting the “socialism” bits from. The fact that they said they are? Do you also believe that North Korea is a Democracy, because it’s in their name?

              Public ownership is the principle aspect of both the former USSR’s economy and the PRC’s economy

              There’s no public ownership in either. In USSR it was “friends of friends” (the people who we now call the Oligarchs) and in PRC you have a “dictator-approved capitalism” with companies being privately owned.

              I’ll admit that I don’t know enough about Cuba or Vietnam to discuss them.