• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    China’s socialist market economy, unlike FDR’s New Deal, is commanded by public ownership as the principle aspect of the economy under a proletarian-led and controlled state, unlike FDR’s bourgeois controlled imperialist state. Socialism isn’t simply having safety nets, it’s a mode of production.

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      Totally, totally. Those are the nets I think of when i think of their production. Very proletarian led, that’s why they need all the cops and censorship.

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        The worker’s state needs worker’s cops and worker’s censorship. Crime and cia outlets don’t magically disappear in a worker’s state.

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        Those are the nets I think of when i think of their production.

        It’s weird how liberals will insist “one county, two systems” is a fiction, then point to a glaring example of Hong Kong labor policy and blame Beijing.

        Nevermind the fact that you’re describing Foxcon, a Taiwanese company focused on manufacturing for American and Japanese electronics distributed into Western markets.

        That’s the evil Chinese Communism you’re complaining about. No word on when Americans plan to sanction Foxcon for these abhorrent labor practices.

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        Over 90% of the Chinese citizenry support their system, and the vast majority believe it to be democratic, more confidence than westerners have in their system. Having police and censoring the speech of capitalists is important for upholding the socialist project, especially in its early stages as it is in China.

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                I’m queer too, why don’t you listen to queer Chinese people and what they think? Conditions have been steadily improving for them.

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                  4 hours ago

                  It’s not worse than anywhere else (actually Cuba seems pretty good on that? One of the few places. So it’s not ml’s in general), but I do not feel welcome.

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                    Again, I recommend listening to queer Chinese citizens. As you pointed out, Cuba is one of the world’s most progressive states, and that’s because of Marxism-Leninism’s liberatory nature. In China, it’s already far easier to be poor than in the US Empire, and is easier to be queer than many areas in the US Empire as well. Life is improving both generally and with respect to LGBTQIA+ rights. Currently it’s more of a divide between the young and the old, with the passage of time China’s queer rights are expected to continue improving.