• dangrousperson@feddit.org
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    It’s OK to distrust more than one Government, but how anyone can believe the Chineses Government in this matter is beyond me.

    Did you not see the insanely violent crack down on Hong Kong Democracy Movement with you own eyes? Do you not remember Tianamen Square? Great Fire-Wall?

    Theres liyteraly over 10GB or evidence of the persecution of Uyghurs by the Chinese Government:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_Police_Files

    I can understand not wanting to believe/trust the US and EU Govs, but trusting the Chinese Government is (IMO) insane.

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      It’s OK to distrust more than one Government, but how anyone can believe the the west in this matter is beyond me.

      The west has repeatedly coup’d, invaded, destroyed, killed, bombed, sanctioned everyone that dares look at them wrong. But sure, daddy west is completely right when it comes to China.

      Hong Kong Democracy Movement

      Democracy is when you have west funded protests trying to do a color revolution. Sure.

      Do you not remember Tianamen Square?

      Oh, one of the biggest propaganda lies the west ever made about China? Have you actually watched the tank man video? How about the evidence of the contrary to the so called “massacre on Tiananmen square”.

      Great Fire-Wall?

      Oh no, China doesn’t allow the west to propagandize to it’s citizens, while simultaneously propping it’s own national platforms, the horror!!!11!!1!

      Also, let’s just ignore how the Arab League literally investigated the so called “Xinjiang genocide”, and found nothing.

      But sure, Adrian Zenz is right, lmao.

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      The Xinjiang Police Files are said to be leaked documents from the Xinjiang internment camps, forwarded to anthropologist Adrian Zenz from an anonymous source.

      Adrian Nikolaus Zenz (born 1974) is a German anthropologist known for his studies of the Xinjiang internment camps and persecution of Uyghurs in China. He is a director and senior fellow in China studies at the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation, an anti-communist think tank established by the US government and based in Washington, DC.

      Yeah… not suspicious at all.

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      “How anyone can believe the foreigners is beyond me” Let me guess you don’t consider foreigners human

      “All foreigners are ‘insane’ btw” calm down hitler

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      It’s OK to distrust more than one Government

      Then you should try it, you hypocritical dipshit. You believe everything that comes out of the western propaganda machine without question, and then assume anyone who doesn’t believe them are “believing the Chinese government”

      If it were 2002 you would be accusing anyone who didn’t believe Iraq of having WMDs of “believing Saddam!”

      Do you not remember Tianamen Square

      So do you do this in the opposite direction? When people doubt a claim made by China, do you start randomly bringing up unrelated events from forty years ago. What exactly was the chain of reasoning that made you thought this was relevant? Oh right, there wasn’t one: you’ve just been trained like a literal dog to compulsively blurt out “Tinyman Square!” every time you hear the word “China”.

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          That’s the reddit mindset: being as rude, condescending, and smug as humanly possible is fine, but a naughty word is just uncivil.

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      Did you not see the insanely violent crack down on Hong Kong Democracy Movement with you own eyes?

      Previously:

      The UK’s 99 year lease to subjugate the people of Hong Kong ended, a lease which had been forced upon Imperial China at gunpoint during the century of humiliation. Hong Kong reintegration after the lease expired was a foregone conclusion. The last minute, US-backed attempt at color revolution failed. It was the so-called “revolutionaries” who brought the brutality, by the way.


      Do you not remember Tianamen Square?

      Previously:

      I’ve already asked another commenter this but it’s valid here too: Would you class the western oppression of dissent to be on the same level as that famous student protest in China?

      Only someone misinformed about the 1989 protest and US/CIA/NED-orchestrated, murderously violent riot would ask this, which to be fair is 99% of Westerners.


      Great Fire-Wall?

      The firewall isn’t there to keep Chinese people from The Truth. It’s there to keep imperial core meddling out, and to help China develop its own domestic internet services. In contrast, the rest of the world is dependent on / addicted to US internet services from Google/Alphabet, Amazon, Facebook/Meta, Microsoft, etc., which many countries are beginning to regret.


      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_Police_Files

      I already covered Xinjang elsewhere in this post, and if you had read it you would know that Adrian Zenz is a crackpot.