Trump went from the “because you’d be in jail” guy I loved to this “letting Hillary get away with her crimes is barely scratching the surface of everything I can do to fuck the concepts of law and justice”
So what happened to my fellow supporters? I’m still here but it’s like all the others vaporized? Or I was the only one the whole time, but then why would Trump lie for my support when my one vote wasn’t gonna decide that first election?
This seems really weird
I feel like everyone who was on the Donald Trump subreddit back then would remember “because you’d be in jail,” it was memed on for years. It was a moment in the presidential debates where he gave that as a response to Hillary talking about how bad his Presidency would be
I was probably the most leftist person in there (until I got banned before Trump’s eventual Twitter ban) but right wing people were also eager to see politicians go to jail. Idk where my fellow memers went for there to be like, no split-off branch from people reacting to Epstein like “ohhh he can’t send opponents to jail because he’d go too, that’s fine then”
I was not on that sub because in case it wasn’t clear I’m not a trumper, but if you were in it for the memes, I hate to tell you but a lot of that was foreign influence or people with no actual political views other than lulz. Both those groups have moved on to even more meme-able things with even worse more extreme views. I don’t think people with coherent political positions want “politicians to go to jail”, I think most people want criminals to be held accountable. People rallying around jailing people in general are not my vibe, but maybe it’s worth reflecting on why you think certain people should be jailed and others shouldn’t. Trump is a felon many times over. You can read or watch plenty on what he’s already been found guilty of, and plenty on things he was able to get out of, so maybe jailing politicians has just fallen out of favor with his die hard fans. If you believe that the Epstein files are real, how do you square that with the president calling it a hoax and all the waffling and lying the administration has done about them? The die hard fans are taking the line that it’s all a hoax and the rest are ignoring it because it’s easy to do, just like they ignored all of the other issues with him and his administration. Only you get to decide what you will do with that information. I hope you’re able to find your way out of it.
When the white house just has a long stream of war criminals in it, wanting criminals held accountable is wanting politicians arrested.
I just still don’t get where the “people like me” are that were clearly joining a movement en masse to bring down war criminals, not support another one. The idea they were all foreign influencers makes no sense. Some “for the lulz” but that doesn’t explain 0 people left who actually were on board
You can’t expect a war criminal to hold war criminals accountable. What’s happening with the Venezuelan boats is criminal. He obviously doesn’t care about criminality. I think the issue is that most people that actually cared about criminality were against him in the first place. He has been on record many times about how little he cares for the rule of law, so that dissuaded most people who earnestly cared about the law from supporting him to begin with.
I’m not saying people like you don’t exist at all, but most people that cared about accountability were against him, and the ones that for some reason still supported him are likely now too deep in the Trump mindset to speak against him, or have been convinced that anything said against him is a lie. It has to be said that a lot of people you potentially perceived as “like you” were also grifters, bots/foreign agents, or just trolls, and many of all of those groups have pushed even further right. If you were on Reddit, feel free to go back and see which accounts you saw posting or you were chatting with. See what they’re up to now, if anything. It’s possible I’m wrong and the community you’re referring to is still over there and still feels the same way you do. Otherwise, there are only so many explanations as to what could have happened, and I’m open to hearing other theories.
I wonder if a bigger part of it than we’ve realized is them being brainwashed to start believing everything said against him is a lie, one of the things you mentioned
I assume many of the people from that subreddit back then are no longer on reddit, but surely they can’t all have moved to somewhere dumb like truth social either, so I also wonder if there’s a particular place I’m not realizing a lot of them went
Yea, as someone with family and acquaintances that are into Trump, I have generally only seen them become more fanatical.
If you end up finding it, I would be interested to know where. If you remember to, please feel free to come back and let me know.
Thanks for the discussion. I hope you can find something useful in it for future discussions with those who still blindly support Trump 🙏
Hired trolls to feed the propaganda machine, fueled by QAnon. Face it, you were duped harder than most people throughout history.
Mind you, you’re an inbred American, so it makes total sense.
Most Americans aren’t either. It’s an education issue. But that sort of response will inoculate many from becoming more educated. Keep in mind this is something Canada and plenty of other places are struggling with as well. There’s a global propaganda issue.
I agree with you on the education being lacklustre in a large part of the world, but I disagree with the response. Why should I be tolerant of intolernat people? Fight fire with fire and break their wills.