Well I figured you were either some dipshit from the flyover counties or, far more likely, an employee of a troll farm. I figured I’d give you the benefit of the doubt.
Eastern Europe hasn’t been socialist for 3 decades. What you see is the devastation of capitalism and western imperialism plundering formerly functional states.
You could argue that they’ve never been socialist, because like every other attempt it just devolved into military dictatorships. The effects of that attempt are still present today. Take any political or social map of Germany and you can still see where the old borders were
No, you cannot make that argument, because it isn’t true. Socialist states have had the working classes in control of the state, and this is proven with hard evidence from the opening of the soviet archives confirming leftist documentation and reporting within the SU. As for the former GDR, the communists were purged in show trials by the west, which never genuinely de-Nazified. That’s why there’s a far-right reaction there.
Mate, even the majority of socialists disagree with this view, let alone someone who is critical of socialism.
The USSR was a dictatorship full of nepotism and corruption, where you could get jailed for the dumbest reasons, ranging from being gay to practicing karate. None of these rules were established by workers and all of them were created by the bureaucracy.
Incorrect, the overwhelming majority of socialists worldwide uphold socialism as it exists in the real world, unless you’re talking purely about socialists in the west. The USSR was run by the working classes, and was more progressive than the west when it comes to queer rights and especially women’s rights. They had an advanced form of democracy outlayed in Pat Sloan’s Soviet Democracy.
It wasn’t the workers who ended the USSR, but a coup, the ones who led this coup being the modern oligarchs in these post-socialist states. The majority wanted to preserve it:
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I’ve been! Met some lovely people. Saw some beautiful places. You should try leaving your home city just once in your sheltered closeted little life.
The world is not what Fox News is telling you it is.
Lmao, I am European. Wtf would I need to watch Fox news for?
Sorry bud but painting a stereotype is not really defending your position. Did CNN tell you that that was OK?
Well I figured you were either some dipshit from the flyover counties or, far more likely, an employee of a troll farm. I figured I’d give you the benefit of the doubt.
Oh yeah, all very good points. Maybe you can also call me a sexist fascist bigoted incel, that’ll really show off your knowledge on the subject
You seem to expect people call you that a lot.
I mean if you’d like? I’m not sure this comment is the checkmate you think it is.
Eastern Europe hasn’t been socialist for 3 decades. What you see is the devastation of capitalism and western imperialism plundering formerly functional states.
You could argue that they’ve never been socialist, because like every other attempt it just devolved into military dictatorships. The effects of that attempt are still present today. Take any political or social map of Germany and you can still see where the old borders were
No, you cannot make that argument, because it isn’t true. Socialist states have had the working classes in control of the state, and this is proven with hard evidence from the opening of the soviet archives confirming leftist documentation and reporting within the SU. As for the former GDR, the communists were purged in show trials by the west, which never genuinely de-Nazified. That’s why there’s a far-right reaction there.
Mate, even the majority of socialists disagree with this view, let alone someone who is critical of socialism.
The USSR was a dictatorship full of nepotism and corruption, where you could get jailed for the dumbest reasons, ranging from being gay to practicing karate. None of these rules were established by workers and all of them were created by the bureaucracy.
The workers were the people who ended the USSR
Incorrect, the overwhelming majority of socialists worldwide uphold socialism as it exists in the real world, unless you’re talking purely about socialists in the west. The USSR was run by the working classes, and was more progressive than the west when it comes to queer rights and especially women’s rights. They had an advanced form of democracy outlayed in Pat Sloan’s Soviet Democracy.
It wasn’t the workers who ended the USSR, but a coup, the ones who led this coup being the modern oligarchs in these post-socialist states. The majority wanted to preserve it:
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Lemmy was made and is developed by communists, if you’re anti-communist you probably aren’t going to like it here.
Lithuania having a large nationalist movement and a far-right resurgance doesn’t disqualift that the vast majority voted to stay within the USSR. This is further proven by the dramatic drop in people supportive of capitalism in Lithuania from 75% right after the dissolution to around 50% by 2009.
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