People constantly told OP that, but they just won’t stop making posts about it

If Lemmy is developed by those same authoritarians or their apologizers, then you shouldn’t stop at donations and you should delete your account.

Using a different instance based on their code does not support them in any way.

But it’s important to draw the distinction between not wanting to give them money, and not wanting .ml to exist.

I’m fine with them having their corner of the internet, but I’m sure as shit not going to financially support them. Especially because if they quit, it wouldn’t end Lemmy. It’s open source code, once it’s out there, it’s just out there.

The entire point of this is no one person has the keys.

Remember why you’re here. If you can’t handle discourse with people who see the world differently then go back to Mastodon and save us your intolerance

You’re asking people to “tolerate” support of human rights abuse by authoritarian governments like China and Russia…

Lots of people have problems with authoritarianism, especially now.

That’s not even getting into those two individuals personal views on things like LGBTQ. Which shouldn’t be surprising when given the stances on LGBTQ by the authoritarian governments they idolize.

And before anyone says “they don’t talk about that stuff, look at their profile!”…

Even if it wasn’t obvious they have alts already, here’s one of them admitting it:

https://lemmy.ml/post/29579005/18404597

Acting like directly giving money to them somehow doesn’t support them is ludacris.

If their political stances truly don’t matter to you. Are you ok buying a Tesla still because it’s an EV?

Most people don’t know near as much about .ml as you think they do…

It’s a silly place that bans everyone who disagrees with them and 99% of the fediverse will never notice.

The day the rest of the other instances drop .ml and all their devs to work on their own fork has to happen before fediverse can take off.

The entire instance is literally an albatross around the fediverse’s neck.

That’s not even getting I to the lack of transparency with “salaries”.

1. Are they making 10k and want 20k? Or 10k and want 120k?

2. Who are they accountable to? Who makes sure they work?

3. Who will decide if their work is high enough quality?

4. Who will ensure they listen to users instead of pissing them all off so they leave?

A corporation has shareholders, a private business has a CEO, political groups has chairs…

This is giving all the money/power to two individuals, accountable to no one with zero transparency how funds are used…

And I just realized why the Marxist/Lenists are ok with this…

It’s literally the same grift y’all fell for in the first place.

More rubber duck debugging than anything you said, but you did contribute to me figuring out why you all support this

This is what you replied to:

I don’t think anyone saying they don’t want to give to lemmy.ml would still be ok with it going to their two main admins’ personal accounts instead.

Then you accused me of “moving the goalposts” for saying this:

Most people would consider paying a lemmy.ml admin a “salary” the same as paying money to lemmy.ml

Can you explain what goalposts were moved without another manifesto no one will read?

This is for them, as the only 2 devs who are full time, to be able to survive contenuing to make lemmy.

Shouldn’t lemmy.ml support them?

Isn’t that the entire point of communism?

Why do they keep saying “delevopers salary” like it’s a team of different people and not two lemmy.ml admins?

First the complaint was hosting, now its the fact that they are asking to be able to survive doing the work

Everything I’ve seen in this thread is pretty clearly stating they don’t want to donate if any money goes to .ml

Maybe you’re confused because you’re in multiple different threads trying to insult users of different instances into paying a salary for your admins?

Most people would consider paying a lemmy.ml admin a “salary” the same as paying money to lemmy.ml

Especially when they can use that salary to keep Lemmy.ml running.

Nutomic responded in this thread:

Apparently (from what .world admins have said in this thread) Nutonic is 1 of 2 developers who are trying to make Lemmy a full time job and take a cut of all donations to facilitate that…

Which makes all their comments insisting lemmy.ml only gets money thru one method look a hell of a lot like intentionally manipulating a user base for financial profit.

Like, the money not going to lemmy.ml but a cut going to two of their main admins personally is a pretty big piece of information they haven’t mentioned once.

I don’t think anyone saying they don’t want to give to lemmy.ml would still be ok with it going to their two main admins’ personal accounts instead.

It seems like they’re twisting words…

The “developer salaries” appear to go to that account and another lemmy.ml admin.

So they’re all over this thread saying lemmy.ml only gets donations from that one method, and failing to mention who the “developers” are.

So they’re telling people to support thru those methods, because they personally still get a cut as a Lemmy ml developer.

So no matter how you give, lemme.ml admins get some of that money.

Which is personally why I’m not. Maybe if that person who is personally receiving a cut of the funds wasn’t constantly lying about it.

But what does anyone expect from lemmy.ml?

That would make since if any of the pictures were selfies and not random screen grabs off a webcam

It’s pretty obvious …

What’s scary is how many people just accepted that some woman wanted to randomly spam thousands of pictures with her smoking weed.

That would mean a lot more if it wasn’t in the same reply chain as you clearly not knowing what you’re talking about about…

but at the cost of competitive fairness??? No thanks.

You do realize current CoD is matchmaking based on engagement, right?

If it takes 3 matches of getting stomped to exit the game, it’ll give you an easy win every 3 games.

If the first number changes, so does the second.

That’s not even getting into how buying skins artificially reduces the second number.

Like, after accounting for just those two things, it’s kind of absurd to complain about fairness unless it’s competitive mode, and I’m pretty sure those already have pc/console splits.

Player input uniformity is one of my biggest gaming gear grinding situations. It’s especially problematic with my favorite genre of games: competitive FPS games.

That’s how it was split…

A PC controller would be matched up like a console controller. Now pc controllers will be grouped with PC mouse players…

You typed a lot but don’t seem to know what you’re talking about about bud

Yet with the sudden closure of Monolith Productions and cancellation of its Wonder Woman project, that particular success seems doomed to life in the vault. Though the Nemesis system was due to be implemented in the Wonder Woman game, Warner Bros. still owns the patent for the system, which stands with an expiration date in 2036.

The fact that a game mechanic can be patented for over 20 years is fucking insane…

Just because you make an argument, doesn’t make it true

Mate…

I “made an arguement” that it wasn’t just Nazis that did this …

And used an example of people who were not Nazis doing it to show that …

And you accused me of saying both groups are the same.

After I literally said:

Obviously the people saying “Luigi was right” and the Nazis are different.

You felt the need to say almost verbatim the same thing back to me like it was something I didn’t know.

There’s not an easier way to explain this, I’m sorry but I’m not helping you anymore.

Obviously not, which doesn’t matter because the behavior isn’t unique to either group:

It’s not even a Nazi thing, it’s a human thing.

I thought that by stating that nice and clear in the beginning would prevent confusions like yours, but I forgot some people read something and instantly forget it.

It’s insane to me

How?

This isn’t the first time, won’t be the last time.

It’s not even a Nazi thing, it’s a human thing.

Reddit said you can’t say “Luigi had a good idea” so idiots try to find the furtherest they can take it without repurcussions, and when they face repurcossions they screech that their free speech was violated because they were dog whistling to advocate for murder

So people get banned from reddit for it, and come here and they’re *still stuck on trying to find the line in every situation so they can put their toes on and screech “freeze speech” like teenagers playing the penis game.

Obviously the people saying “Luigi was right” and the Nazis are different.

But it’s the exact same human instinct to push boundaries and see what they can get away with, then claim innocence when faced with consequences. Little kids do it constantly, and with our education system lacking on critical thinking since No Child Left Behind, people aren’t learning the critical thinking to internally make the call on what’s ok, they just try shit and see if there’s negative consequences. That’s all that matters: can I get away with saying this.

We just saw it on a national stage where trump kept talking about tarrifs on Canada, he wanted them to engage in a bad faith conversation about fentanyl while his tarrifs were active and free of consequences. Instead Trudeau finally ovaried up and hit back with retaliatory tariffs.

trump got consequences and he’ll stop. But if there wasn’t he’d have kept pushing it.

If you have gamepass it’s fine for a 20 some hour play thru.

But I wouldn’t recommend anyone spend money on it, it’s probably going to get huge discounts soon.

What did avowed do wrong?

That’s what I’m talking about…

It’s not that they do anything wrong, it’s that the don’t do anything well.

It was less an RPG and more just a fps shooter with the same bare minimum of RPG elements as every other fps shooter.

The biggest games are the blandest because they’re trying to appeal to everyone. But even people not into RPGs can like a good rpg. Which is why BG3 and CK2 KCD2 are so popular.

Big studios aren’t underestimating their audience, they’re just counting on video game enthusiasts buying every major game.

I ran thru it on game pass, and it was alright, but I was kind of just going thru the motions. So I said “terrible” but I meant it was terrible at being a big budget triple A RPG.

It felt like a generic fps from 20 years ago, the only flavor was from existing IP pasted over it.

Avowed was pretty terrible too.

The problem with AAA games is they’re trying to make a game everyone likes, compromises on everything, and ends up with something no one likes.

BG3 and CK2 tho set out to make great RPGs and had faith people wanted great RPGs.