• 小莱卡@lemmygrad.ml
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      libs be believing dem politicans lip service when they never do anything about it, but the one time their politician says something and actually does it, they don’t believe it.

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        When you put it that way, it is pretty unbelievable that a US politician would follow through on a promise 🤔

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            He says that because you weren’t paying as much tribute as he would like, which is why he ordered you to increase military spending and y’all went and did it, and then had Mark Rutte kiss his ass in appreciation. 😂

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                you know that the US is in NATO, right? 😅 In fact, it’s the goddamn leader lmao.

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                  natobros are still under the illusion its an alliance among sovereign nations on an equal footing that respect one another 😂😭

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                    Maybe you missed the part where Trump decided to “maybe” withdraw the US from NATO

                    So, has the US withdrawn from NATO or is it a part of NATO?
                    Also, it would be nice if the US withdrew from NATO.

                    switched to a Mafia style for military protection

                    The rest of NATO has been a bunch of glorified provinces of the US since NATO’s inception.

                    threatened to reduce military capacity in the EU

                    That would be great, actually. NATO in general should both be prevented from invading elsewhere, and be forced to answer for its already-committed crimes.

                    We will replace the US military shield by 2030. Google it if you don’t believe it

                    Glorified USian provinces in Europe will not be going independent any time soon.

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        Bullshit. German politics is riddled with the same talking points as the US. Just today i read a german article talking about a “german roe v wade”

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        Republicans just convinced Europe that the USA cannot be trusted anymore

        FYI: in the EU we don’t play the “it was Biden vs it was Trump” game. We stop at “it was the US”.

        What?

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          I doubt that US extortion will be reversed in any future DNC election victory. Only antagonism, and resulting colapse of US, which has yet to be manifested, will result in reversal.

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            You literally just said that it was because of Republicans that the EU soured on the US and now you’re telling me that in the EU you don’t look at which party is in charge but at the US as a whole. Do you not see how these statements are contradictory?

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                Ok? The significance of the clip I posted was not that it was Biden saying it but what he said he would do (and very likely did). Why did that prompt you say, “FYI: in the EU we don’t play the “it was Biden vs it was Trump” game. We stop at “it was the US?””

                The reason I posted that clip was to establish the reason why I believe the US blew up the pipeline. Yes, it happens to be Biden in that clip, but you’re the one who started talking about distinguishing between Trump and Biden and then about not distinguishing between Trump and Biden. I’m just talking about the US.

                The only thing I can think of is that you’re trying to preemptively shift the NordStream thing away from Biden and onto the US in general as a way of deflecting blame from Biden. But again, I just brought it up to establish US policy on NordStream, not specifically to bash Biden. If it’s not that, then I just straight up don’t understand you at all.

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                    Why would I want to deflect blame from Biden? I’m telling you that I’m a European and I don’t care who’s in charge in the US or which president did what.

                    Why did you feel the need to say that you don’t care about internal US politics when I didn’t say shit about internal US politics?

                    All I did was post a clip of the US president promising that he’ll stop NordStream if Russia invaded Ukraine, despite not having the legal authority to do so. Then, of course, Russia invaded Ukraine, and the NordStream pipeline mysteriously got stopped (could be anyone, really!)

                    because that sabotage was very convenient for every party

                    It certainly wasn’t convenient for Russia or Germany.