• Narri N. (they/them)@lemmy.ml
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    A close friend (bless his heart) asked me if I “really think China is more free than, say, France?” when talking about things like freedom of the press and journalistic integrity. I’ve seen a lot of that recently, that because we live in a country which had been once considered to be “socialistic” that the stories we are told and things we have been taught wouldn’t align as much with what global and local capitalists want us to believe is true. At one point I remember him critizising me for using the term “wage slave” (which I used jokingly but w/e) because “none of us here are actual wage slaves”. Because you apparently have to be an Asian child in a Nike sweatshop to actually be opressed by capitalism. My brother, no-one is free until all are free.

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        It might have been a misunderstanding between how being unemployed doesn’t rule out being a wage slave, even if you live in a country with a relatively high standard of living because the means of production are still capitalistic, you just don’t have any income and the government tries its best to not give you any also. Or I used the term in a too abstract of a manner elsewise. Or a combination of all and some others.

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    Thinking China is the same as it was 10-30 years ago and that Chinese products can’t have superior quality.

    We’ve reached a point where the US doesn’t even know how to manufacture some of the stuff China can.

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      It’s not just, but very much an american thing to say. It’s almost every video on youtube.“i bought this power tool for $4 from china and man it’s bad.” All the comments are: hahaha china only makes shit, who could’ve guessed.

      You can buy the best literally everything from china. But it’s not gonna be cheap. But then it’s like:“that’s too expensive for something from china.” I’m worried when something is “American made” because it’s an absolute gamble and the chances are really high that they use their weirdo measurements where you need magically sized tools to taje it apart.

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      I’ve recently been getting some stupidly high-quality stuff from China for insanely good prices.

      Essentially, I’ve been buying stuff from Walmart that has been marked down over $100. What I think is happening is no-name Chinese companies try to make a high quality product and sell it for a premium, but then nobody buys it because of the reputation no-name Chinese companies have. Then, they still need to sell their inventory so we can get great products at great prices.

      These bluetooth headphones from a company I’ve never heard on straight up shit on the Sennheisers I used to have that cost significantly more.

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    Their attitudes towards elderly parents. I’ve been told I shouldn’t worry about helping them in their old age because they had their chance to work and save for retirement and so it’s their responsibility of it’s not enough. Except… They didn’t. They migrated here with nothing, provided for THEIR parents their whole lives, and did the best they could for me, which left them with next to nothing. Westerners assume everyone boomer aged or so had the same opportunities that their parents had. The nuclear family is also very hands-off about caring for the elderly. That’s not how most of the world operates. Plus, it’s so sad!

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      Yep, same in the UK. We’ve abandoned our elderly and seemingly can’t wait for our kids to leave so that we enjoy maybe 10 years of watching TV and not working before we die.

      In other, less ‘developed’ countries the family is a unit. The elderly help with the infants (which has been proven to be mutually beneficial), while the rest of the family works or helps maintain the household. There’s way less likelyhood of abandonment or lonliness in old age, which in my country is endemic.

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      Even in the west that one doesn’t stand. We have systemic unemployment and tons of hard working family owned business lost everything when Amazon took their market share

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        I agree that’s the reality here, but that doesn’t mean people will acknowledge it. I mean… look at what people who are willfully ignorant and/or intentionally hateful have done to the west. They’re still saying shit like “better work harder, scrub” even though that’s complete bullshit and applies just as much to them as anyone else.

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    Failing to have a coherent understanding of how imperialism works. A lot of westerners seem to think they live in developed countries developed purely by their own industry, while not realizing how financial capital continues to plunder the global south.

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    “immigration is why our lives are getting worse”

    Very clear indicator that someone has barely attempted to understand how the world works

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      I mean yeah thats a good indication, but thinking about it, many asian countries also have this same feeling. So is it a westernized thought process or just “people are stupid as fuck” problem. I lean on the latter.

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        It’s a racism problem, which one might argue is people being stupid as fuck.

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    Maybe more of a US bubble but American software never considers that people might be multi lingual and public transport is always disregarded.

    Examples include: Google knows that I speak German and English since I put it in my settings and yet it tries to auto-dub German YouTube content and auto-translates German comments in Maps.

    Public transport stops only appear in Google Maps when you zoom in quite a lot despite being some of the most important points of interest when using public transport. Public transport navigation is also very lackluster.

    Those are just examples, there are many more examples in software where you can notice some 20 year old US tech bro came up with it who has never been to a different country.

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      Examples include: Google knows that I speak German and English since I put it in my settings and yet it tries to auto-dub German YouTube content and auto-translates German comments in Maps.

      I actually have the opposite problem. Sometimes when googling something I get auto translated results (mostly reddit posts tho), and a week ago the YouTube app on my phone decided to auto translate English video titles.

      No, I DON’T want your shitty Dutch auto translation. Give me the original English. I am not English illiterate and you 100% know it, Google.

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        Even worse. Recently I was watching a video in Dutch, and it decided to automatically translate the sound to English. AI generated. That was just…it sounded so fucked up.

        And why does YouTube think it needs to do that? If I want that, I’ll so it myself.

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      Public transport navigation is also very lackluster.

      This reminded me of a few months ago when I went to Milan with a friend. I used Organic Maps for getting around and they used Gmaps. Their phone was always trying to get us to walk as little as possible, using EVERY possible combination of metro, tram and busses for even the shortest trips, it was insane. Change bus here, ride one stop, get on the metro, change to the other line, get back on a bus, take the tram, it never ended. Same trip on organic maps was 3 changes on the metro and a 5 minute walk at the end.

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      Public transport stops only appear in Google Maps when you zoom in quite a lot despite being some of the most important points of interest when using public transport. Public transport navigation is also very lackluster.

      Maybe its a personal experience or a US problem, but when I was in Japan Google Maps was a godsend for navigating the subway and railway system. I learned quickly to trust that system because they had rail cars coming and going constantly. Ignoring the system caused me to get onto the right train, but that train was a full service train saand stopped at each individual station. Had I waited 2 minutes as directed I would have gotten on the limited service train and arrived at my destination many minutes faster.

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      I had never noticed public transport stops being missing in maps, but that is probably because there are no public transport stops where I live. I had noticed it always greys out the bus when I ask for directions though.

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      In the west - yeah? Obviously third worlders also believe in various miracle healers and televangelist preachers and such, but those countries too have scientific minds and communities and bodies that practice evidence-based, aka “western” modern medicine.

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    anything that implies they’ve only learned European and US history (e.g. discounting the global technological contributions of Asia and Africa)

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      I have one for this!

      I once asked someone “In school, who were you taught invented vaccination?”

      I thought she’d say Edward Jenner. In fact it was well-known in West Africa and the Ottoman Empire a century before Jenner (PDF)

      She said George Washington!

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          Cool. Seriously!

          But if it didn’t change history (did they even genocide??! /s ) then we won’t learn it in base school I guess.

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              Valmond is legitimately curious and reinforces the issue with westernized learning, the only history taught is very basic colonization and your home countries history. The problem is worldwide, if it isnt related to your country or white history in general, you need to perform extracurricular learning to get an understanding of actual history.

              You taught them something they didnt know

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              I explained why we don’t learn that in school. Don’t you understand what I’m saying? I’m not a native English speaker.

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    Paraphrasing, but:

    • “Truth does not exist, only opinions, and they’re all equally valid.”
    • “Morality is fundamentally relative.” (It follows from the former, I guess.)
    • “Every tribe/culture has always been/remains equally brutal, bloodthirsty, hedonistic, nihilistic, imperialistic and selfishly amoral.”
    • “There are no differences between the sexes besides the physical ones.” (And even that one is denied at times, for instance when it comes to transexual athletes)
    • “Love, making a lifetime commitment to your partner and raising kids are not (nor should they be) of major relevance in people’s lives.” (And if you even mention it you’re a control freak, limiting women’s freedom and whatnot)
    • “You gotta take care of yourself first and foremost!” (the Divine and the collective come second and third, if they’re thought of at all, to the self, and only the self is truly worthy of attention)