Gender-critical campaigners had hoped that this year’s Supreme Court ruling would tee up US-style bathroom bills across the UK, throwing hundreds of thousands of pounds at lawsuits to exclude trans women from women’s spaces. It’s not working out that way. Rivkah Brown reports.
But if you want to make true ungendered toilets (as was suggested) that are accessible to all, having a section where a bunch of guys all basically get their cocks out and piss in a trough kinda prevents that.
Trans women can use urinals too if they want. Not sure where you’re getting the piss trough thing from I’ve only ever seen one of those at boy scout camp 30 years ago. Most urinals are individual stalls and are great for not having to smell the horrendous dump someone just took in the toilet stalls.
Sometimes gendered stuff makes sense - like urinals. As you mentioned they’re efficient and I’d imagine a large part of why the gents toilets don’t have big queues. I’m all for trans folk using whatever toilet they want, I’m more worried about the folk who are presumably checking everyone’s genitals to make sure they’re in the correct toilet.
Not a fan of putting up more surveillance in general, even less so in public toilets. Also what happens to the urinals in this scenario?
You either have a completely different section or just get rid of them altogether
Urinals are purely there to increase throughput and reduce cleaning time. Just get rid.
Increasing throughput and reducing cleaning time are both good things, though.
Increased throughput means less queuing and being able to quickly relieve yourself. In a shared toilet, this would benefit men and women alike.
Making cleaning quicker and easier means it’ll happen more and be less disruptive when it does happen.
But if you want to make true ungendered toilets (as was suggested) that are accessible to all, having a section where a bunch of guys all basically get their cocks out and piss in a trough kinda prevents that.
Trans women can use urinals too if they want. Not sure where you’re getting the piss trough thing from I’ve only ever seen one of those at boy scout camp 30 years ago. Most urinals are individual stalls and are great for not having to smell the horrendous dump someone just took in the toilet stalls.
Sometimes gendered stuff makes sense - like urinals. As you mentioned they’re efficient and I’d imagine a large part of why the gents toilets don’t have big queues. I’m all for trans folk using whatever toilet they want, I’m more worried about the folk who are presumably checking everyone’s genitals to make sure they’re in the correct toilet.
Just have one room full of urinals, one room full of stalls, both ungendered. So then anyone can use any facility they feel most comfortable with.