The Trump administration told states on Saturday that they must “immediately undo” any actions to provide full food stamp benefits to low-income families, in a move that added to the uncertainty surrounding the nation’s largest anti-hunger program during the government shutdown. In late-night guidance seen by The New York Times, the Agriculture Department also threatened financial penalties against states.
Why is feeding people political? What value add is forcing people to starve? Monsters.
Why is feeding people political? What value add is forcing people to starve? Monsters.
I’ve been doing some free consulting work with Food Not Bombs chapters in my local area. The same day that SNAP went away, ICE started intimidating them.
- They told all the churches and community centers where they do distribution that they’re “providing material aid to illegal immigrants” and can face criminal investigations and warrantless searches unless they stop letting FNB distribute food.
- Have shown up at distributions to check people’s immigration status which has scared some people away from coming to get food.
IDK if this is a nationwide coordinated effort or unique to my area.
Christ, of course it’s a deportation tactic.
We didn’t end up in the “eat the rich” future, but rather “starve the poor.”
Investors are going to love Walmart’s next quarterly earnings.
Starving people out is the best reason to start fighting. I hope people start fighting back. This makes me so angry holy man.
if we’re hungry we’re less capable of revonution is the thinking
That makes no sense, why wouldn’t that make you more likely?
If they were capable of critical thinking, we wouldn’t be in this position to begin with. Not feeding people isn’t exactly the brightest of ideas.
Historically, it has two outcomes. Which comes to pass is up to us.
We have a population crisis with too few babies being born, and the clear solution is to keep making kids more expensive.
What value add is forcing people to starve?
I think their strategy is to make the gov shutdown as painful as possible, then point fingers at Dems.
Honestly they should have caved a long time ago. Trump and his cronies are loving the shutdown.
I don’t know where people are getting the idea that I suggested anyone appease him/them…
Honestly they should have caved a long time ago. Trump and his cronies are loving the shutdown.
No, they absolutely should not have, and should continue not to. The message they should be receiving from the most recent elections is that the Republicans are losing support, not gaining it.
What they should be doing is the opposite. It is in the GOP’s best interest to reopen the government. Until they can see that their actions are losing them all of their support, ask for more.
For every additional day that someone starves due to the government’s failure to provide, ask for something to compensate them. Every additional day that people work without pay, demand something in return for them.
Eventually they will need to cave and compromise. Move the bar so far back that they have no choice but to compromise harder.
The message they should be receiving from the most recent elections is that the Republicans are losing support, not gaining it.
[citation needed]. Republican voters do not want SNAP to even exist. Preventing people from having access to food is what they voted for.
[citation needed].
Surely you’ve read the news on the most recent elections? Or will we ignore Democrats making major victories from New York City to Mississippi?
Are we going to ignore the giant national Republican victory last year? Show me scientific evidence that shows that conservatives are losing support due to the shutdown.
Are we going to ignore the giant national Democratic victory a few years ago?
We’re talking about the Government shutdown and SNAP benefits in this thread. There has only been one set of national elections during this shutdown.
Are we going to ignore the giant national Democratic victory a few years ago?
…you mean 5 years ago ?
We’re talking about the Government shutdown and SNAP benefits in this thread.
Which is why I asked about the government shutdown…
…you mean 5 years ago ?
Yes. Both are equally irrelevant to the shutdown that has been going on for only a couple months. There has only been one major set of elections since the shutdown, which was my point.
Honestly they should have caved a long time ago. Trump and his cronies are loving the shutdown.
I disagree - there is no appeasing a tyrant - ask the universities that caved to Trump how that worked out for getting their funding restored.
This news demonstrates exactly why, and how democrats need to throw that narrative out the window.
there is no appeasing a tyrant
Who said anything about appeasing him? I’m talking about reopening the gov and getting people fed. We have nothing to gain, they’re more than happy to use starvation as a negotiation strategy.
Reopening the government without ACA subsidies literally kills people when they can’t afford their new premiums. There are people for whom affordable access to healthcare is the difference between life-saving medication and, well, the lack of that.
Starvation of people on SNAP is also literally the GOP’s stated goal. If Dems fund the government and let those people who need healthcare die, the GOP isn’t going to play nice and keep funding SNAP. They’re gonna gut it like they’ve always dreamt of doing anyway. They already signaled this with the BBB.
Reopening the government without ACA subsidies literally kills people when they can’t afford their new premiums.
That would be a valid point if conservatives had any motivation at all to come to the table.
Starvation of people on SNAP is also literally the GOP’s stated goal.
Exactly my point.
the GOP isn’t going to play nice and keep funding SNAP
If they were going to defund it, they would have done so already. They defunded everything else.
